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    Quote Originally Posted by Acumen View Post
    Everyone has a path. For some its in one field, for others its understanding how and why we are here. I don't think that's small time or dreaming.
    Leave that stuff to CERN. Unless the dreamers have the necessary knowledge to back up their dreams, they should start writing fictional novels. The dreamers will dream and the scientists will conduct science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acumen View Post
    All this talk is getting me in the mood to watch Contact or Interstellar.
    Interstellar was a great film

    Haven't seen Contact
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    Did microbes exist before the 17 century?
    Like I paraphrased earlier, if I dip a cup into the ocean and it comes up full of just water, that must mean there are no whales in the ocean right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vonStauffenberg View Post
    Infinity is big and stuff isn't it? Having one of something doesn't mean there are more no matter how big the universe is? Having 17 trillion planets, galaxies, universes doesn't mean there are more life forms when you only have one as your guide.
    How much of an atom is emty space?
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    As we are able to have this conversation, greatly increases the odds of other life being out there. It's not like there isn't life anywhere, if you get what I mean
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    Quote Originally Posted by vonStauffenberg View Post
    Infinity is big and stuff isn't it? Having one of something doesn't mean there are more no matter how big the universe is? Having 17 trillion planets, galaxies, universes doesn't mean there are more life forms when you only have one as your guide.
    Ok yeh you've convinced me. Earth is special and we're the only life in the universe. The rest is just empty. That's definitely the most logical conclusion anyway. So this magical thing that happened only on Earth to create life, care to shed any light on what you might think that was? God?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vonStauffenberg View Post
    Infinity is big and stuff isn't it? Having one of something doesn't mean there are more no matter how big the universe is? Having 17 trillion planets, galaxies, universes doesn't mean there are more life forms when you only have one as your guide.
    It actually does. If the universe is infinite, then there are an infinite number of possibilities for life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    How much of an atom is emty space?
    Is it relevant to whether we are alone or not? If it is I'll find out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDREAMOFGINI View Post
    Leave that stuff to CERN. Unless the dreamers have the necessary knowledge to back up their dreams, they should start writing fictional novels. The dreamers will dream and the scientists will conduct science.
    Didnt the inqusition have a similar idea?
    Let the life business be gods business and let the god business be our business or we will burn you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    Yeh this thread is clearly too much for you, maybe you should sit this one out?
    lol. I'm happy with this life. I could want to be something else in a new one or be a copy of another life or imagine myself as something weirdly coincident to what Sci-Fi guru's dream of. Ahhh Krap. The dream life ends up worse than my real one. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by vonStauffenberg View Post
    Is it relevant to whether we are alone or not? If it is I'll find out.
    I thought we were also talking about how empty is empty space
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    Quote Originally Posted by vonStauffenberg View Post
    Is it relevant to whether we are alone or not? If it is I'll find out.
    At the end of the day there's no way we can prove our opinions, either way. I guess it just comes down to what you believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    How much of an atom is emty space?
    99.9999999% I think. I read the other day if you took out all the empty space in the atoms in the human body, you could fit the entire human population inside a single sugar cube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    Ok yeh you've convinced me. Earth is special and we're the only life in the universe. The rest is just empty. That's definitely the most logical conclusion anyway. So this magical thing that happened only on Earth to create life, care to shed any light on what you might think that was? God?
    I'm not here to convince you of anything. I'm trying to have a debate about an interesting subject. I can never prove I'm right, neither can you unless an alien lands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxB View Post
    Interstellar was a great film

    Haven't seen Contact
    Contact is a great film.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    Didnt the inqusition have a similar idea?
    Let the life business be gods business and let the god business be our business or we will burn you?
    don't bring God into it. Way way too many factors already
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDREAMOFGINI View Post
    don't bring God into it. Way way too many factors already
    Actually i didnt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    How much of an atom is emty space?
    who gives an atom's krap
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    Quote Originally Posted by vonStauffenberg View Post
    I'm not here to convince you of anything. I'm trying to have a debate about an interesting subject. I can never prove I'm right, neither can you unless an alien lands.
    Yes but we're explaining our logic. So far you've just said since Earth is the only planet we've found with life on so far, it must be the only one. You haven't answered any of the questions posed to you and you just keep repeating that over and over. What was this magical thing that made this unique thing called life on Earth? Are you religious? That's what a lot of religious people believe, their explanation being the magical thing is God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    Didnt the inqusition have a similar idea?
    Let the life business be gods business and let the god business be our business or we will burn you?
    CERN is science, not religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDREAMOFGINI View Post
    CERN is science, not religion.
    Who was speaking of religion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    I thought we were also talking about how empty is empty space
    You may have been but it's irrelevant. Space may be filled with trillions of planets, may all be barren. People seem to be judging life based on one planet. That's what I can't get my head around. Earth has life. Every other planet we know doesn't.
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    Listened to the Betty and Barney Hill tapes just the other day, in fact. I find it highly dubious, but interesting nonetheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vonStauffenberg View Post
    You may have been but it's irrelevant. Space may be filled with trillions of planets, may all be barren. People seem to be judging life based on one planet. That's what I can't get my head around. Earth has life. Every other planet we know doesn't.
    We don't know that they don't either. Like I said, there could be microbes (or something else) floating around Europa as we speak, how the hell would we know?
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    Infinite possibility to parrel universe hey in one man u r third tier team
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    Quote Originally Posted by vonStauffenberg View Post
    You may have been but it's irrelevant. Space may be filled with trillions of planets, may all be barren. People seem to be judging life based on one planet. That's what I can't get my head around. Earth has life. Every other planet we know doesn't.
    Earth have extremophiles, they are known to exist in the most harsh environments. They are proof that life needs very little to come into existance. The formula is quite primitive, and not at all so complex or special that people make it to be.
    It is also known that some earth extremophiles can survive in space.
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    I don't believe aliens visit, but believe there is a hefty chance of life out there in the multiverse.

    Let's not forget we have discovered so much more in the last 20/30 years about the universe & developed theories that go beyond our galaxy and a universe.

    We can see so many thousands more planets now, some planets show fascinating potential through light particles, indications of water for example...fact we can't see that life or can't get there doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    Op you seem predisposed to the opinion there is no other life in the universe, but your arguments are less compelling than indicators there is life in the universe
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    We've not scratched the surface as a species, only now we're getting there & it's exciting to see the likes of Hawking & prominent scientists turning their collective minds more & more seriously to this question

    If you obsess over UFO's then that is a limited way to think about life on other planets, that's whimsical in the main, fun, the bigger question of life deserves far more attention & real thought & is getting it the more advancements we make
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    We don't know that they don't either. Like I said, there could be microbes (or something else) floating around Europa as we speak, how the hell would we know?
    Exactly. If there is one inhabitable planet out of every billion planets, the universe would be absolutely full of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    Yeh this thread is clearly too much for you, maybe you should sit this one out?
    Too much? don't humour me. It is fish and it'll still be fish until Twitter tells me its not fish and theres more fish in the milky way than there's fish in the ocean. Its all fish i tell yeh.
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