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    Another BBC article on JK today.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41567028
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacFoley'1975 View Post
    Another BBC article on JK today.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41567028
    ..straight after an England article with a similar question
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLiddellGreates View Post
    ..straight after an England article with a similar question
    Missed that one. Was it about Southgate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacFoley'1975 View Post
    Missed that one. Was it about Southgate?
    Not specifically, it questioned whether the international side had improved since the 2014 world cup. I don't think it's that much of a coincidence they question lfc's progress similarly soon after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLiddellGreates View Post
    Not specifically, it questioned whether the international side had improved since the 2014 world cup. I don't think it's that much of a coincidence they question lfc's progress similarly soon after.
    It must be that much for a big deal for the Beeb as they have a link to the same JK video, twice on their football homepage.
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    They have slightly annoyed me before, when I made the thread 'bbc don't know what they're talking about', which as we know they clearly do, otherwise MOTD wouldn't be so brilliant. It's not always unwelcoming having some tough love articles, just doesn't feel that great when there is potential hidden agendas under some of their plots. I think the bottom line is the bbc can't just please liverpool fans they have to write for all audiences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacFoley'1975 View Post
    It must be that much for a big deal for the Beeb as they have a link to the same JK video, twice on their football homepage.
    its two years since he took up the post, natural to do a piece on him. The Guardian have done one too.

    The article or piece isn't bad either
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacFoley'1975 View Post
    Another BBC article on JK today.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41567028
    We’ve lost 23 games in 111 under Klopp. Him getting compared to Rodgers who had Gerrard Sterling Sturridge(fully fit) Coutinho and Suarez who is one of the best players on the planet is a joke I’ve seen talksport comparing them as well. Give Klopp Gerrard and Suarez and we’re in a completely different situation. Give him some* time we finished 4th last year, we’ve had a bad start but we are literally like 2 wins away from getting back on track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLiddellGreates View Post
    They have slightly annoyed me before, when I made the thread 'bbc don't know what they're talking about', which as we know they clearly do, otherwise MOTD wouldn't be so brilliant. It's not always unwelcoming having some tough love articles, just doesn't feel that great when there is potential hidden agendas under some of their plots. I think the bottom line is the bbc can't just please liverpool fans they have to write for all audiences.
    Without digging into every article and seeing whether they open all or only some to comments, I saw the Mane injury got an article (fair enough) but also a comments section

    Maybe they do, maybe they don't, but I do question the need for opening so many comments
    People will believe what they want to believe
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarknessIsCalling View Post
    Without digging into every article and seeing whether they open all or only some to comments, I saw the Mane injury got an article (fair enough) but also a comments section

    Maybe they do, maybe they don't, but I do question the need for opening so many comments
    agree because at least 60% of people commenting on them will be bias against us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S_7 View Post
    We’ve lost 23 games in 111 under Klopp. Him getting compared to Rodgers who had Gerrard Sterling Sturridge(fully fit) Coutinho and Suarez who is one of the best players on the planet is a joke I’ve seen talksport comparing them as well. Give Klopp Gerrard and Suarez and we’re in a completely different situation. Give him some* time we finished 4th last year, we’ve had a bad start but we are literally like 2 wins away from getting back on track.
    Agree.The reactions are crazy.Although he has made few mistakes but he has lost only two league games since march...ffs!!
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    Another article, open to comments (784 so far) Fair to judge a manager not far into his third season this early in.........?!? Then again some on here are as bad, yes Klopp can't live on his history but first season = two cup finals, second season = CL place and whilst we're shaky at the moment might be the absence of Lallana and indeed Mane at times that is hindering us and we're still on for 4th (given it's October, although if it were March we'd hardly be badly off!)

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41567028

    How far back do we have to go for a manager who did one of cup finals and top four in consecutive seasons..........? RAFA. And even then I think it would have been 06/07 and 07/08 so we're talking near a decade. If Klopp finishes top four or reaches a final then that will be three seasons in a row, frankly talk of replacing him even as "doubts creep in" or however some like to pass it off reminds me of Leicester sacking Ranieri after he won them the league the previous season.

    And by "reminds me" I don't mean the scenarios are the same, just the lack of appreciation of what we have and what Ranieri did for them led me to be reminded ie does what it says on the tin, when I say someone reminds me of someone else it DOES NOT EQUAL "looks like"
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    Not BBC related, but when the camera went on Stevie today, the first thing that scumbag Tyler mentioned was his sending off that last time. Then added some token point about how many times he’s been brilliant against Utd.
    'Okey doke, we'll leave it there so'
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    MOTD put us on right at the end, in fairness it was 0-0 but surely ought to have been a bit further up the schedule regardless.

    Is somewhat stupid and lacking in thought of them to put the games with less goals on last, bet their audience had dwindled to just the fans of the clubs involved whereas putting maybe the Arsenal result and one or two other games with goals on later keeps your audience....

    Some may choose not to check results before they watch the programme or the game itself, but it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to work out that a game dumped down the order that was billed so highly before, on early, and a big local rivalry couldn't have been great.............
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    I notice they cut the bit where Klopp said about the style of football they accept at utd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouldiogs View Post
    I notice they cut the bit where Klopp said about the style of football they accept at utd.
    Well they didn't cut it out from the BBC website...
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    Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp says the Anfield club would not be allowed to play like Manchester United after their goalless draw at Anfield on Saturday.

    Liverpool dominated for long spells but could not break United down, and Klopp said: "I'm sure if we played like this, you could not do this at Liverpool. Obviously for United it is OK."
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    I read an article written by Pat Dolan in the Star yesterday and whilst I don't always agree with him, he was right. Liverpool need to back Jurgen Klopp. Yes it may take time and building before he gets it right and gets the players HE WANTS.

    I still believe the chasing of Van Dijk will be fruitful. Klopp nor Liverpool have given up the ghost on that one. He was beligerant in his chasing of Naby Keita, and accepted no alternatives. Yes he had to compromise and accept it was next year before he gets him. He is getting him though.

    Therefore patience is needed and chopping and changing is pointless.
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    BBC have this 'story' on their football front page all day. They actually are scum to take this out of context and make it a story.


    'I am the charismatic, funny loser' - Klopp

    Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp describes himself as a "charismatic, funny loser" before Liverpool's match against Maribor in the Champions League on Tuesday."

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41654215
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    BBCWorld reporting on the matches in their sports news. i watched this twice during today…

    They commented that Spurs had a tremendous game, and that Man City were marvellous. Graphics/pics shown. Blahblahblah.

    No mention of Liverpool whatsoever.

    You'd rather expect that our scoreline would attract some comment, but zip/nada/zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kloppsstars View Post
    I read an article written by Pat Dolan in the Star yesterday and whilst I don't always agree with him, he was right. Liverpool need to back Jurgen Klopp. Yes it may take time and building before he gets it right and gets the players HE WANTS.

    I still believe the chasing of Van Dijk will be fruitful. Klopp nor Liverpool have given up the ghost on that one. He was beligerant in his chasing of Naby Keita, and accepted no alternatives. Yes he had to compromise and accept it was next year before he gets him. He is getting him though.

    Therefore patience is needed and chopping and changing is pointless.
    agree with this but he still should have brought in another centre back this summer when he knew van dijk wasn't going to happen, we need two to go with matip and lovren that would give us good depth and competition for places. Totally agree with you about patience , this is a work in progress and we must let klopp see it through
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbid71 View Post
    agree with this but he still should have brought in another centre back this summer when he knew van dijk wasn't going to happen, we need two to go with matip and lovren that would give us good depth and competition for places. Totally agree with you about patience , this is a work in progress and we must let klopp see it through
    I agree....to a point. I am going to reiterate this point again because it seems very few understand it. There is signing a centre half...and signing a specific centre half. Jurgen Klopp does not just want 'just a centre half', he wants a specific type of centre back. I personally believe he wants another Mats Hummels. When he won the Bundesliga, many said it was his purchase of Mats Hummels for just £3.5 million that was the catalyst for the first title win.

    In essence he could, when he gets those specifics one of which is the already purchased Naby Keita, he won't be far off.
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    That's now 3 days and counting that the BBC have featured a video of Origi's recent miss on their sports homepage - is it really that big a story?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ***Stuzzza*** View Post
    That's now 3 days and counting that the BBC have featured a video of Origi's recent miss on their sports homepage - is it really that big a story?
    martial had one just as bad in utd s last game
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    Quote Originally Posted by ***Stuzzza*** View Post
    That's now 3 days and counting that the BBC have featured a video of Origi's recent miss on their sports homepage - is it really that big a story?
    nah, bit hit and miss, but perhaps people are lapping it up or there's nothing else newsworthy
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    The BBC are getting worse.

    Recently we had Ian Wright having a go at Jurgen Klopp for being passionate during games, in that it 'annoys other managers". This is the same Ian Wright who praised Conte for being passionate.

    What an idiot. There must be something wrong with these supposed 'experts" in that they spend most of their time with their feet in their mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kloppsstars View Post
    The BBC are getting worse.

    Recently we had Ian Wright having a go at Jurgen Klopp for being passionate during games, in that it 'annoys other managers". This is the same Ian Wright who praised Conte for being passionate.

    What an idiot. There must be something wrong with these supposed 'experts" in that they spend most of their time with their feet in their mouth.
    Not just that. Isn't this the same Ian Wright that criticised motd for being too formal and he was the only jester there to keep it lively?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kloppsstars View Post
    The BBC are getting worse.

    Recently we had Ian Wright having a go at Jurgen Klopp for being passionate during games, in that it 'annoys other managers". This is the same Ian Wright who praised Conte for being passionate.

    What an idiot. There must be something wrong with these supposed 'experts" in that they spend most of their time with their feet in their mouth.
    Makes me laugh, what spoiled football in the past 10-20 years are the spoiled brats like fergie and moronho who don't like losing, and if they want to pick on managers who are annoying then they could look at some of the more 'passionate' managers of clubs who have little or no chance of doing anything but are very 'in your face'

    Is Klopp any worse than others? I doubt it, besides which since when did armchair critics like Wright et al who've never managed in their life, or had a short stint and didn't like it like Shearer, have the right to say how people can act when it's natural.............?!?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarknessIsCalling View Post
    Makes me laugh, what spoiled football in the past 10-20 years are the spoiled brats like fergie and moronho who don't like losing, and if they want to pick on managers who are annoying then they could look at some of the more 'passionate' managers of clubs who have little or no chance of doing anything but are very 'in your face'

    Is Klopp any worse than others? I doubt it, besides which since when did armchair critics like Wright et al who've never managed in their life, or had a short stint and didn't like it like Shearer, have the right to say how people can act when it's natural.............?!?!?
    Antonio Conte is actually one of my favourite managers, because like Klopp he's a very passionate manager. I would embrace it and encourage it, not criticise it. There is nothing wrong whatsoever with Conte going berserk or Klopp doing his fist pumps.

    Klopp does what Klopp does and is unlikely to change. However I do think he's toned it down since his time at Dortmund. He was like a jack in the box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kloppsstars View Post
    Antonio Conte is actually one of my favourite managers, because like Klopp he's a very passionate manager. I would embrace it and encourage it, not criticise it. There is nothing wrong whatsoever with Conte going berserk or Klopp doing his fist pumps.

    Klopp does what Klopp does and is unlikely to change. However I do think he's toned it down since his time at Dortmund. He was like a jack in the box.
    Agree. Why the heck are pundits bothered about Klopp's celebrations?? Its his nature and his style. He'll celebrate a 5th goal even against a non-league side and it still wouldnt be their business to question him! Every time we do well, they find a reason to criticize us.
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    Media has knives out for everyone at every chance to some extent.

    But, make no mistake, the BBC is a royal establishment southern formerly Thatcher-friendly organization. Liverpool is socialist, poor, full of working classes and Irish spirit. The city was firmly in the camp of the "give Ireland back to the Irish" school of thought, and Liverpool FC so dominated football during the dark days of the 70s and 80s that there is still an enormous resentment in the south. It doesn't work the same way for United, because even though they, too, are a northern team, Manchester has always been *a little* more South-friendly than Liverpool, and the "new United" had a very southern element, southern bosses behind the scenes like David Gill (from Reading), half their fans were rich and middle class southerners who'd never lived in Manchester, coming up the motorway every Saturday to eat prawn sandwiches in silence, and no surprise that the Irish ruffian Roy Keane pointed that out.

    The BBC and all forms of the elite establishment will always resent the North of England, but moreso Ireland, and nowhere moreso than Liverpool - a British city that identifies more with Irish independence than anything that ever came out of London, or Parliament, or Buckhingham Palace.

    During the Hillsborough crap, the BBC were full of rubbish, as was all London news. Liverpool fans have long memories, as do all the people on Merseyside. Everton fans may be our "bitter" rivals, but these types of sentiments I've made in this post, are ones which any Everton fan will probably nod and agree with, and for that matter, a lot of United and City fans would also agree with, because it may be "more English than Liverpool", but Manchester is still very northern, still steeped in working class roots and traditions, and has still borne the brunt of a lot of southern ire over the years.

    Whether we want to be or not, we (Liverpool) and Everton and United and City are all brothers/sisters in a struggle against the richer, more powerful, and deeply prejudiced south. It's getting better but it'll never be gone completely. Not in our lives anyway. And we'll always get the most ire of those 4 teams because of that history and because of our unshakeable Irish roots.
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