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    Quote Originally Posted by FSG-VanBasten View Post
    If we buy him for 90m and he doesn't do to well, fans on here would crucify klopp for signing a player with no CL experience and making it internationally two years ago!
    Most fans on here dont go to games and i dont think Mr Klopp is worried about internet heckling
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    Quote Originally Posted by raybarnes View Post
    Most fans on here dont go to games and i dont think Mr Klopp is worried about internet heckling
    Most lpool fans in general would.

    Don't think klopp would care but the pressure would be the same so called pressure he is under now. I don't think fsg have any plans to change him but fans and the media are piling on the 'pressure'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSG-VanBasten View Post
    He is the head of it. Example andy renshaw has been sacked and it appears it was klopp who wanted the change. No way would he be sacked if klopp wanted him.
    What am I saying and what are you on about?

    I'm talking about the people who look for the players - the scouting network. The people who bring players to Klopp's attention. We have a problem in that department, not a problem with the funds available (in one post you said we don't have enough money and in another you said we have the funds available...)

    What does sacking a Physio have to do with player recruitment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterPoolStark View Post
    What am I saying and what are you on about?

    I'm talking about the people who look for the players - the scouting network. The people who bring players to Klopp's attention. We have a problem in that department, not a problem with the funds available (in one post you said we don't have enough money and in another you said we have the funds available...)

    What does sacking a Physio have to do with player recruitment?
    The people who look for players are the ones who are there with klopps blessing. If he wants to change them, he can. He is the head of the club. The sacking of the medical doctor is a simple way of showing he is the head. He dictates it. Not that hard to understand?

    In regards to funds, again it's very simple. The funds we have are there for klopp. He is not being held back on that. However the department we are held back is when comparing our funds with Chelsea, city and united.

    Southampton for example have a transfer committee. The manager does not oversee it. It's the board that does.

    We had a similar transfer committee which no longer operates the way it did under brodge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterPoolStark View Post
    What am I saying and what are you on about?

    I'm talking about the people who look for the players - the scouting network. The people who bring players to Klopp's attention. We have a problem in that department, not a problem with the funds available (in one post you said we don't have enough money and in another you said we have the funds available...)

    What does sacking a Physio have to do with player recruitment?
    Are you sure about that though? I mean we can only go with what we're told and who we buy, and we don't know for certain which ones are specifically earmarked by Klopp himself. But we've (at the very least) in our recent history targetted the likes of Mane, Matip, Salah, VVD, Keita, Draxler, Brandt, Coutinho, Lemar, Suarez, Sterling, Sanchez, Costa, Mkhitaryan, Willian, etc. All quality players. Granted a lot of those are/were pretty well known but that's the kind of standard we want isn't it?

    Actually getting the deals over the line seems to be the bigger issue to me. Or are you saying we should be unearthing more unknown gems AKA the moneyball approach? Because quite a few people lambast FSG over that too, even if that doesn't really hold much weight in reality IMO. Maybe in past years we've failed or been 'lazy' in our scouting approach and signed a few duds, with the likes of Balo, Markovic, insert Saints player here, but I don't think we've had an issue with that since Klopp has been here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bri_Bates View Post
    You're incredibly na´ve if you think a new owner won't toss at least some of the big wheels at the club who, in turn, will toss those lower in the chain to install their people all the way down to the tea lady and toilet cleaners...
    What new owner are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by raybarnes View Post
    But who scuppered the VVD transfer thats what we want to know
    Jurgen Klopp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSG-VanBasten View Post
    Most lpool fans in general would.

    Don't think klopp would care but the pressure would be the same so called pressure he is under now. I don't think fsg have any plans to change him but fans and the media are piling on the 'pressure'.
    Are they?...there is nothing in the mainstream media to suggest Klopp is under any more pressure than usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo0573 View Post
    What new owner are you talking about?
    A big fat greasy one, who can actually **** money like there's no tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiddlerDave View Post
    A big fat greasy one, who can actually **** money like there's no tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrottonRed View Post
    Are they?...there is nothing in the mainstream media to suggest Klopp is under any more pressure than usual.
    Certainly more pressure than before. Not from the board but the media. They do try and do what they can to destabilise a player or manager as it sells. A lot of the fans then jump along the bandwagon.

    I see klopp staying here even if we finish outside the top four. As much as it would hurt to miss out on the top four.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    So we just need better 'holistic synergy'? Who knew it was so simple. Someone get on the phone to John Henry.
    Ignorance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSG-VanBasten View Post
    Certainly more pressure than before. Not from the board but the media. They do try and do what they can to destabilise a player or manager as it sells. A lot of the fans then jump along the bandwagon.

    I see klopp staying here even if we finish outside the top four. As much as it would hurt to miss out on the top four.
    Not seen anything in the media you wouldn't see if you aren't winning every week.

    As for Klopp, he'll be in trouble if we finish outside the top 6 and miss out on Europe completely.

    But even then, I'd expect him to be in charge next season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redfoot View Post
    Ignorance.
    We need more ignorance? That doesn't sound right either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrottonRed View Post
    Not seen anything in the media you wouldn't see if you aren't winning every week.

    As for Klopp, he'll be in trouble if we finish outside the top 6 and miss out on Europe completely.

    But even then, I'd expect him to be in charge next season.
    The FA cup this season should be a priority as well as a CL place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    We need more ignorance? That doesn't sound right either.
    Your comment showed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo0573 View Post
    What new owner are you talking about?
    The next one that is coming I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedsFanBro View Post
    The FA cup this season should be a priority as well as a CL place.
    Possibly...depends whether we are still in the CL or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redfoot View Post
    Your comment showed it.
    Coming from the guy who wants the manager sacked and the owners to sell up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    Coming from the guy who wants the manager sacked and the owners to sell up.
    Believe me, he ain't the only one, steviewonder.

    The owners are like marmite mate. Maybe too strong a phrase but they really do divide opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Seamus- View Post
    Believe me, he ain't the only one, steviewonder.

    The owners are like marmite mate. Maybe too strong a phrase but they really do divide opinion.
    You want the manager sacked too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    You want the manager sacked too?
    No. I didn't bold that part of message for a reason.
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    Inappropriate, sorry.
    Last edited by DiddlerDave; 11-10-17 at 13:18.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Seamus- View Post
    No. I didn't bold that part of message for a reason.
    I can take or leave the owners, not bothered either way. I don't have a major beef with them and I'm not overly keen on having some billionaire Arab/Russian playboy coming in either, and they could certainly be worse as we well know. I think people should be careful what they wish for. And I certainly don't want the manager sacked. If redfoot had his way he'd sack the managers, the players, change the owners and 'do a Man City' I suspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiddlerDave View Post
    ...


    Feeling particularly adventurous today Diddler? That one might be NSFW
    Last edited by steviewonder87; 11-10-17 at 13:20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post


    Feeling particularly adventurous today Diddler? That one might be NSFW
    You're quite right.

    Try this one instead. Much more wholesome.

    https://i.redd.it/ve9j50skazkz.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post


    Feeling particularly adventurous today Diddler? That one might be NSFW
    You can edit my quote out, if you'd be so kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiddlerDave View Post
    You can edit my quote out, if you'd be so kind.
    Done
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    Done
    Ay theng yoo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    I can take or leave the owners, not bothered either way. I don't have a major beef with them and I'm not overly keen on having some billionaire Arab/Russian playboy coming in either, and they could certainly be worse as we well know. I think people should be careful what they wish for. And I certainly don't want the manager sacked. If redfoot had his way he'd sack the managers, the players, change the owners and 'do a Man City' I suspect.
    I like Klopp. He's a motivational type of manager with an exciting brand of football. Just needs to add a bit of quality to this team and complete it before we lose some of our better players. Otherwise we're back where we started. That wouldn't be good.
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