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    Quote Originally Posted by seasonedtraveller View Post
    I thought everybody knew leaving the eu would enable us to negotiate trade deals with countries all over the world .
    Maybe if Mr d had know that he'd have voted brexit too!
    I understand that you had to get someone else to explain for you, thats about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDilkington View Post
    He was anything but clear.
    We were free to independently agree deals before anyway.


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    No we're not
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    Quote Originally Posted by dookar View Post
    No we're not
    We definitely were.
    Last edited by MrDilkington; 10-1-18 at 14:44.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghyllred View Post
    ST we are about to leave the biggest free trade block ever invented for a tariff future. Why do this if not for political digmatic, ideological reasons. There is no economic sense to it.
    How is it free when we gave to send them millions every week?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dookar View Post
    No we're not
    I was clear you just chose to act like a child.
    Once out of the eu we will be able to trade.
    You pretend to be such and expert im surprised you are not in politics instead of doing nothing all day
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    Quote Originally Posted by seasonedtraveller View Post
    I was clear you just chose to act like a child.
    Once out of the eu we will be able to trade.
    You pretend to be such and expert im surprised you are not in politics instead of doing nothing all day
    We have been able to trade all along.

    Quote Originally Posted by seasonedtraveller View Post
    How is it free when we gave to send them millions every week?
    Do you know what these payments are for ?

    Do you realise that a substantial amount of money also moves the other way, ask your mate nigel, he used to get paid and never turn up to the votes, even when the fate of the UK fishing fleets was on the agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seasonedtraveller View Post
    How is it free when we gave to send them millions every week?
    It is tariff free. We contribute money to pay for projects like roads thousands of Brits drive on in Portugal and Spain.
    and ask UKip where the money goes too.

    Do you also not think any money is spent by the EU in the UK. Ask around. Enquire. but dont look to your Daily Mail for answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghyllred View Post
    It is tariff free. We contribute money to pay for projects like roads thousands of Brits drive on in Portugal and Spain.
    and ask UKip where the money goes too.

    Do you also not think any money is spent by the EU in the UK. Ask around. Enquire. but dont look to your Daily Mail for answers.
    I get this argument that we are sending them a lot of money from many of the people I talk to, that is one of the reasons some of them gave a leave vote yet not one of them can explain why we pay them, how often or what its for.
    These types of people are not the brightest but there is a lot of them, they are the sort of people that think big money comes from working hard and putting in the hours, yet they all keep voting for parties that favour the upper classes and the corporations taking a dump on them, parties ran by people that have never worked a day in their lives and still insist that they are looking out for them, what a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dookar View Post
    Pointing out others who are equally wrong in no way validates your position
    I've established that for many brexiters conflation between the political EU and single market trading body exists. Its real.

    And I'm pointing out that your sense of right or wrong on some aspect of trade is null, void and valueless because of the position you yourself have adopted, in common with those brexiters.

    I'll close my exchange on this the same way I started it. With a well used quote from you.

    "Brexit is not an economic proposition"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghyllred View Post
    It is tariff free. We contribute money to pay for projects like roads thousands of Brits drive on in Portugal and Spain.
    and ask UKip where the money goes too.

    Do you also not think any money is spent by the EU in the UK. Ask around. Enquire. but dont look to your Daily Mail for answers.
    So if they charge us tariffs then we charge them tariffs germany will love that with all the cars they sell here
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDilkington View Post
    We have been able to trade all along.



    Do you know what these payments are for ?

    Do you realise that a substantial amount of money also moves the other way, ask your mate nigel, he used to get paid and never turn up to the votes, even when the fate of the UK fishing fleets was on the agenda.
    I wish nigel was my mate. Id buy him a pint
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    Quote Originally Posted by seasonedtraveller View Post
    So if they charge us tariffs then we charge them tariffs germany will love that with all the cars they sell here
    So we charge the whole world tariffs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dookar View Post
    So we charge the whole world tariffs?
    I think it will all depend on different agreements with different countries or trade unions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    I think it will all depend on different agreements with different countries or trade unions
    Of course but those things take a long time and when we leave we'll have none (assuming we don't grandfather into the current ones)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dookar View Post
    Of course but those things take a long time and when we leave we'll have none (assuming we don't grandfather into the current ones)
    Everybody will be running to create trade deals with the uk.
    it will be like rush hour at a central station
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    Quote Originally Posted by dookar View Post
    So we charge the whole world tariffs?
    No it depends on what trade deal you strike.
    Surely you don't think wed allow the eu to charge us tariffs and we let them trade with us for free lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by seasonedtraveller View Post
    No it depends on what trade deal you strike.
    Surely you don't think wed allow the eu to charge us tariffs and we let them trade with us for free lmao
    as stated, we won't have any trade deals for a long time. We'd have to charge everybody the same tariffs
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    Quote Originally Posted by dookar View Post
    as stated, we won't have any trade deals for a long time. We'd have to charge everybody the same tariffs
    How long is a long time? We are already lining up deals.....we just can't sign them yet.
    You are panicking before anything bad has happened. I think the eu will suffer more than us once we leave most of the eu countries are already worse off than we are now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    Everybody will be running to create trade deals with the uk.
    it will be like rush hour at a central station
    Ha!

    yr real name is either Liam fox, Nigel farage or Jeremy Corbyn.

    Pie in the sky mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seasonedtraveller View Post
    How long is a long time? We are already lining up deals.....we just can't sign them yet.
    You are panicking before anything bad has happened. I think the eu will suffer more than us once we leave most of the eu countries are already worse off than we are now
    there speaks Paul Dacre once again. the evidence free madness of the Daily Mail.
    Yr views are shared by those only on the far right and far left. Anything to worry about there..yes probably quite a lot. With Corbyn Trump Purtin Farage and Johnson as yr bedfellows good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    Everybody will be running to create trade deals with the uk.
    it will be like rush hour at a central station
    Yea they wont care about paying more for services or products made here, they will do it just because we need them to, just for the pleasure of being associated with us maybe.

    I think people forget that we buy stuff and hire people from abroad for a reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghyllred View Post
    Ha!

    yr real name is either Liam fox, Nigel farage or Jeremy Corbyn.

    Pie in the sky mate.
    Sarcasm
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    I think we will end up a very lonely very expensive island with not much going for us at all.

    I hope I get the chance to leave here eventually, its become such a horrible place to live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seasonedtraveller View Post
    How long is a long time? We are already lining up deals.....we just can't sign them yet.
    You are panicking before anything bad has happened. I think the eu will suffer more than us once we leave most of the eu countries are already worse off than we are now
    How is the food price index looking currently?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDilkington View Post
    Yea they wont care about paying more for services or products made here, they will do it just because we need them to, just for the pleasure of being associated with us maybe.

    I think people forget that we buy stuff and hire people from abroad for a reason.
    So now you're advocating cheap labour in another thread you'll be saying wages are too low. Make your mind up
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    Quote Originally Posted by seasonedtraveller View Post
    So now you're advocating cheap labour in another thread you'll be saying wages are too low. Make your mind up

    Are we suddenly going to drop all our prices, reduce our costs and work for less just to compete ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDilkington View Post
    Are we suddenly going to drop all our prices, reduce our costs and work for less just to compete ?
    We wont have to.
    If the eu charge us tariffs then we charge them tariffs.it works both ways.
    We buy more off the eu than they buy off us.
    We can also buy and sell even more worldwide.
    Maybe we get get people off the dole and into work if the cost of labour worries you
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    Quote Originally Posted by seasonedtraveller View Post
    We wont have to.
    If the eu charge us tariffs then we charge them tariffs.it works both ways.
    We buy more off the eu than they buy off us.

    We can also buy and sell even more worldwide.
    Maybe we get get people off the dole and into work if the cost of labour worries you
    Do you realize what you are stating here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhoscoch View Post
    Do you realize what you are stating here?
    Yes that's why i added we can trade with the world.
    Germany would risk losing billions to us if we had high tariffs
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