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    Quote Originally Posted by dookar View Post
    I've no idea what this means
    It means Brexit will not benefit normal people. On the contrary.

    Add to that, Britains getting the lowest pensions ... https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...g-world/12/02/

    I will ask this ... what actual benefits do you see happening for the ordinary man on the street ... when Brexit happens?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreams-come-true View Post

    Add to that, Britains getting the lowest pensions ... https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...g-world/12/02/
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    I will ask this ... what actual benefits do you see happening for the ordinary man on the street ... when Brexit happens?
    ****'s sake
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    Quote Originally Posted by seasonedtraveller View Post
    We can't agree anything yet. Do you expect him to make deals up?
    The process of brexit involves us first leaving the eu.....see whatever deal we get.....and then negotiating deals with other countries
    Why not. It's worked for brexit leadership up till now. lol.

    You've missed my point. He has models of his own. But he doesn't have to show or make anything up at the moment. The clock's ticking down towards WTO which is part one of what he wants. Part two is unilateral tariff free trade with all the good and bad that means. Checkout the Minford link above your post, to find out more.

    There's an impression of trying to take us back to the days of empire or even further to Drake and Raleigh. The Corsair spirit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDREAMOFGINI View Post
    Will Liverpool get into Champions league if we're out of Europe or in it? That is the question nob-heads
    Switzerland, Russian and Turkish teams do just fine so nothing changes with football.
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    dreams-come-true lives in a Ken Loach movie, I'm 100% certain.

    I love how now since Brexit doesn't economically benefit the people it's bad.

    When people vote to better themselves economically, they're greedy. When they vote for other things, "why are they ruining themselves financially?".

    I don't get this left wing hate for Brexit. Lots of principled Labour MPs where instrumental in the leave campaign, and Corbyn himself has always been a eurosceptic until the Blair-ites forced him to cater to uni students and beltway labour supporters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yehez View Post
    dreams-come-true lives in a Ken Loach movie, I'm 100% certain.
    I'm growing increasingly certain he's a bot, written by a primary school child using Scratch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yehez View Post
    dreams-come-true lives in a Ken Loach movie, I'm 100% certain.

    I love how now since Brexit doesn't economically benefit the people it's bad.

    When people vote to better themselves economically, they're greedy. When they vote for other things, "why are they ruining themselves financially?".

    I don't get this left wing hate for Brexit. Lots of principled Labour MPs where instrumental in the leave campaign, and Corbyn himself has always been a eurosceptic until the Blair-ites forced him to cater to uni students and beltway labour supporters.
    I still do not understand where the little man on the street benefits from Brexit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dookar View Post
    I'm growing increasingly certain he's a bot, written by a primary school child using Scratch
    And you are what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreams-come-true View Post
    And you are what?
    I'm a 'little man on the street' who actually did some research, recognised his own human agency and voted. Explained why beforehand and explained why I'm not happy with the way things are going.

    Other than trite commie ********, what are you bringing to the table?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreams-come-true View Post
    I still do not understand where the little man on the street benefits from Brexit.
    Of course, commie. You only think of money, others' of course.

    Centuries of constitutional battle and it comes down to how much of other peoples' money you can take.

    Some. People. Will. Never. Get. It
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    Quote Originally Posted by dookar View Post
    Of course, commie. You only think of money, others' of course.

    Centuries of constitutional battle and it comes down to how much of other peoples' money you can take.

    Some. People. Will. Never. Get. It
    You got it wrong with me.... If I were a commie, then I wouldn't be wanting democracy. I would want a revolution and take over 100% the means of production.
    Can you tell the difference between that and wanting more social justice for the little man in a democratic socialism ... yes, even for you ...

    In all of this, whether Brexit or not .... and Brexit brings nothing but negativity economically for Britain ... the main point is that the economy has more chance under a Corbyn run government. And that is not communism. They used to call it a Mixed Economy. Sorry if the words are too technical to grasp.
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    For me Brexit is like the spanner in the works, which is only confusing the real issue. The real issue for the conservative party is that Thatcher stole the Tory agenda for something called neoliberalism. And every Tory wanting to do politics from then on .... will have massive difficulties implementing Thatcher's policies ... because they cause this deepening of the social divide. It will not have a good ending.
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    "Only economic study showing benefits of Brexit debunked as 'doubly misleading'"

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7691271.html

    By the way, I think I know a bit about the economy. I am an accountant in industry. I see all the salaries. I produce the weekly sales info... Low wages is a problem every country has. It is something which will result in upheavals. You dont believe me? There will be fewer and fewer jobs... the poor and needy will be (already are) policed. The rich will live in walled off enclosures. This is the direction the whole thing is headed towards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreams-come-true View Post
    It means Brexit will not benefit normal people. On the contrary.

    Add to that, Britains getting the lowest pensions ... https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...g-world/12/02/

    I will ask this ... what actual benefits do you see happening for the ordinary man on the street ... when Brexit happens?
    We are getting the lowest pensions? Is this the fault of brexit or the fault of being in the EU? Or is it in fact neither?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreams-come-true View Post
    It means Brexit will not benefit normal people. On the contrary.

    Add to that, Britains getting the lowest pensions ... https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...g-world/12/02/

    I will ask this ... what actual benefits do you see happening for the ordinary man on the street ... when Brexit happens?
    Jobs. Cheaper prices . A future for kids. Controlled immigration.

    All will benefit the man on the street
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreams-come-true View Post
    You got it wrong with me.... If I were a commie, then I wouldn't be wanting democracy. I would want a revolution and take over 100% the means of production.
    Can you tell the difference between that and wanting more social justice for the little man in a democratic socialism ... yes, even for you ...

    In all of this, whether Brexit or not .... and Brexit brings nothing but negativity economically for Britain ... the main point is that the economy has more chance under a Corbyn run government. And that is not communism. They used to call it a Mixed Economy. Sorry if the words are too technical to grasp.
    Hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreams-come-true View Post
    "Only economic study showing benefits of Brexit debunked as 'doubly misleading'"

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7691271.html

    By the way, I think I know a bit about the economy. I am an accountant in industry. I see all the salaries.
    I produce the weekly sales info... Low wages is a problem every country has. It is something which will result in upheavals. You dont believe me? There will be fewer and fewer jobs... the poor and needy will be (already are) policed. The rich will live in walled off enclosures. This is the direction the whole thing is headed towards.
    that's it, i'm convinced
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreams-come-true View Post
    You got it wrong with me.... If I were a commie, then I wouldn't be wanting democracy. I would want a revolution and take over 100% the means of production.
    Can you tell the difference between that and wanting more social justice for the little man in a democratic socialism ... yes, even for you ...

    In all of this, whether Brexit or not .... and Brexit brings nothing but negativity economically for Britain ... the main point is that the economy has more chance under a Corbyn run government. And that is not communism. They used to call it a Mixed Economy. Sorry if the words are too technical to grasp.
    Actually, the studies have shown that GDP wise, brexit is likely to mean slower GDP growth not negativity. If that is a priority to anyone then brexit will be unwelcome. But I agree with what you say that brexit is a side point compared to actions of a government (such as corbyn government if one prefers) in dealing with raising the floor, closing inequality and intervening in industrial make-up etc etc etc etc .

    Its why the decision to be in or out should not be solely focussed on GDP growth or actions that the government has a high degree of control over. If nothing else, brexit makes elected government more accountable and forces us out of the path we were on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DantesShadow View Post
    brexit makes elected government more accountable and forces us out of the path we were on.
    Brexit, in a nutshell
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    Quote Originally Posted by seasonedtraveller View Post
    We are getting the lowest pensions? Is this the fault of brexit or the fault of being in the EU? Or is it in fact neither?
    The Tories who keep on being voted in ... by socalled conservatives with a small "c" ... unwittingly ignoring the fact that the conservative party dont have any policies for conservatives with a small "c".
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreams-come-true View Post
    The Tories who keep on being voted in ... by socalled conservatives with a small "c" ... unwittingly ignoring the fact that the conservative party dont have any policies for conservatives with a small "c".
    So the relevance to the thread is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dookar View Post
    So the relevance to the thread is?
    That Brexit is more or less not relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreams-come-true View Post
    That Brexit is more or less not relevant.
    To what?
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    Bojo giving another good speech today
    It's time the remoaners just let go of eu apron strings and backed Britain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seasonedtraveller View Post
    Bojo giving another good speech today
    It's time the remoaners just let go of eu apron strings and backed Britain.
    sure, just as soon as my NHS gets the money it was promised by those idiots.
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    Haven't watched the speech yet, but did Boris clarify what's going to happen regarding the Good Friday Agreement by any chance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelYNWA View Post
    Haven't watched the speech yet, but did Boris clarify what's going to happen regarding the Good Friday Agreement by any chance?
    Not a bean, just empty tub thumping.
    Eat. Sleep. Rave. Repeat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloader View Post
    Not a bean, just empty tub thumping.
    I see, so nothing on the Irish border either then? Ah well, no worries, what's the worst that could happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelYNWA View Post
    I see, so nothing on the Irish border either then? Ah well, no worries, what's the worst that could happen.
    He did say you can still go to stag do's to historical cities, so there's that.
    Eat. Sleep. Rave. Repeat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seasonedtraveller View Post
    Bojo giving another good speech today
    It's time the remoaners just let go of eu apron strings and backed Britain.
    He's a dangerous, clueless moron
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