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Thread: Tibet Campaigners Launch Global Campaign Against Liverpool FC's "Dangerous" Deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Ottershaw View Post
    Whilst I can understand one condemning China or companies committing illegal acts, how about Russia. Oh boy, and they are holding the next World Cup, so we’re does one start with that. Football will not change dictators, only if demoncratic countries acting in unison could eventually topple these corrupt states. In my business dealings of the past I saw so many corrupt actions of so called whiter than white corporations. Blind eyes and cash make actions disappear.
    This debate is about our club.

    We can't do anything about the corruption in FIFA...but we can let the owners know how we feel about being associated with certain companies and organisations.

    As for FIFA...well...**** them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnamiri View Post
    The Chinese won't give a rats arse about an internet campaign. I've seen them in action in Africa and here in Hong Kong. They will press on regardless and if Liverpool don't take their money someone else will. I don't say its right but thats the way it is
    Its not bout the Chinese, it is about the public face of LFC. The image of the club will be tainted with this deal, it suggests that LFC is in full agreement with the staus quo, if not, the deal would not go ahead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Ottershaw View Post
    Whilst I can understand one condemning China or companies committing illegal acts, how about Russia. Oh boy, and they are holding the next World Cup, so we’re does one start with that. Football will not change dictators, only if demoncratic countries acting in unison could eventually topple these corrupt states. In my business dealings of the past I saw so many corrupt actions of so called whiter than white corporations. Blind eyes and cash make actions disappear.
    Yes, lots of companies are corrupt and lots of regimes are abusive, but in this case it's our club and we can try to put pressure on them not to support the abuse or corruption.
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    Signed and shared on other forums and SocMed. Thanks for the heads up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amidared View Post
    Signed and shared on other forums and SocMed. Thanks for the heads up.
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    This is one sponsorship deal we can do without.
    It runs contrary to the spirit of this great club and could well result in tarnishing the image of the club.
    Or will it be YNWA unless the Chinese march in and suppress all human rights including the right to walk anywhere
    then you are on your own.
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    Well said.
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    Bump.

    (Yeah, Grot, you're right about that)
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    Signed, this is not a deal the club should be remotely involved in
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    I would like to know if SOS has made any representations to the club in regards to this deal,I think if Shankly was still with us he himself wouldn't be happy with this deal and the light it puts the club in.
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    Signed.

    Will be wearing my Tibet national shirt tonight.

    Disgraceful whats happening in their country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrottonRed View Post
    This debate is about our club.

    We can't do anything about the corruption in FIFA...but we can let the owners know how we feel about being associated with certain companies and organisations.

    As for FIFA...well...**** them.

    Or we could just leave it be. If all deals and the companies involved totally transparent you would find alot wrong.

    More transfer money, just use it wisely.
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    https://actions.sumofus.org/pages/tell-liverpool-fc-to-drop-its-sponsorship-deal-with-tibet-water

    Apparently we now have a deal with a Tibetan water company which is being protested outside Anfield on match days.

    It, once again, raises the question of sponsorship deals and ownership and where do we draw the line ethically.

    Football is a glorious game and the source of much good but with great power comes great responsibility.

    Myself and my partner have been extremely fortunate to have travelled much of this amazing planet (he's stood on the north ridge of Everest) and I think that is where I take the view that we are not owners but merely custodians during our time here and that our actions (sometimes inadvertently) have consequences (often out of our control)

    Personally, I think we could, and should, be doing all we can to make sure our sponsorship deals fit with the values of the club.

    I know others will want oil money and lots of it but I think there is a better way. As someone once said "it's easier to take $1 off a million men than $1,000,000 off one man"
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    Quote Originally Posted by photoholic View Post
    https://actions.sumofus.org/pages/tell-liverpool-fc-to-drop-its-sponsorship-deal-with-tibet-water

    Apparently we now have a deal with a Tibetan water company which is being protested outside Anfield on match days.

    It, once again, raises the question of sponsorship deals and ownership and where do we draw the line ethically.

    Football is a glorious game and the source of much good but with great power comes great responsibility.

    Myself and my partner have been extremely fortunate to have travelled much of this amazing planet (he's stood on the north ridge of Everest) and I think that is where I take the view that we are not owners but merely custodians during our time here and that our actions (sometimes inadvertently) have consequences (often out of our control)

    Personally, I think we could, and should, be doing all we can to make sure our sponsorship deals fit with the values of the club.

    I know others will want oil money and lots of it but I think there is a better way. As someone once said "it's easier to take $1 off a million men than $1,000,000 off one man"
    Ethically I never buy Nike or Sharp or Vodafone, I have a good set of ethics I think
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    Quote Originally Posted by photoholic View Post
    https://actions.sumofus.org/pages/tell-liverpool-fc-to-drop-its-sponsorship-deal-with-tibet-water

    Apparently we now have a deal with a Tibetan water company which is being protested outside Anfield on match days.

    It, once again, raises the question of sponsorship deals and ownership and where do we draw the line ethically.

    Football is a glorious game and the source of much good but with great power comes great responsibility.

    Myself and my partner have been extremely fortunate to have travelled much of this amazing planet (he's stood on the north ridge of Everest) and I think that is where I take the view that we are not owners but merely custodians during our time here and that our actions (sometimes inadvertently) have consequences (often out of our control)

    Personally, I think we could, and should, be doing all we can to make sure our sponsorship deals fit with the values of the club.

    I know others will want oil money and lots of it but I think there is a better way. As someone once said "it's easier to take $1 off a million men than $1,000,000 off one man"
    Good post!
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    Signed, sealed, and delivered.
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    Come on Liverpool FC do the right thing. You'll Never Walk Alone? They will if you stay on board with this and contribute to the denial of Tibet's plight!
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    Keep your eye out for the Free Tibet team outside the ground on Sunday. They'll be there to answer any questions, handing out leaflets, stickers, etc.
    Go and have a chat with them if you get time - this deal will end up being seriously bad for the club, not to mention disastrous for the people of Tibet.
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    Our Chinese overlords have decided that there is no Tibet and I can't see any campaigns in the West changing that. The war on the matter is in all likely scenarios lost for the foreseeable future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrottonRed View Post
    Why would we delete it?

    As long as the discussion stays civil and respectful, there is no problem with it.
    I know it's been a long time but I hadn't followed up at the time...

    I had created a thread about how I believed it was a bad idea to have Western Union as a sponsor, considering all the bad publicity they've gotten over the years and I got told by moderators that my post reflected badly on the club before it got deleted.

    That's why I'm surprised this thread is still alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanCanPressing View Post
    I know it's been a long time but I hadn't followed up at the time...

    I had created a thread about how I believed it was a bad idea to have Western Union as a sponsor, considering all the bad publicity they've gotten over the years and I got told by moderators that my post reflected badly on the club before it got deleted.

    That's why I'm surprised this thread is still alive.
    That's shocking. Luckily it seems like the mods of today are more inclined to allow free speech. Unlike the Chinese in Tibet.
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    What is happening in Tibet is clearly not good, at the same time I wonder if you refused to buy stuff or take part in stuff due to what a company is involved in, directly or indirectly just what would be left. Very little I would guess which says a lot about society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNicksAdvocate View Post
    I would like to know if SOS has made any representations to the club in regards to this deal,I think if Shankly was still with us he himself wouldn't be happy with this deal and the light it puts the club in.
    I love the amount of people who claim they know exactly what Shankly would have done. Big friends were you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanCanPressing View Post
    I know it's been a long time but I hadn't followed up at the time...

    I had created a thread about how I believed it was a bad idea to have Western Union as a sponsor, considering all the bad publicity they've gotten over the years and I got told by moderators that my post reflected badly on the club before it got deleted.

    That's why I'm surprised this thread is still alive.
    As I said, as long as the discussion is civil and respectful, there is no problem with it.

    We've had threads about several sponsors in the past.
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    We live in a real world were politics rule. One cannot avoid issues but I canít help to think that football forums is not the place to highlight for discussion.
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    Surely if fans want to discuss the dubious dealings of the club they support, a fan forum is a good place to discuss it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kopernikus View Post
    Surely if fans want to discuss the dubious dealings of the club they support, a fan forum is a good place to discuss it?
    Well we have forums which are more appropriate for general discussions. This forum is for football not for political idealism open discussions. Anyway that my opinion.
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