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  1. #1 Default Leon Goretzka (Schalke) 
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    Schalke are ready to make Leon Goretzka the highest paid player at the club in a bid to ward off interest from top European clubs including Liverpool.

    The Germany midfielder is one of the continent's most sought-after young players, and is into the last year of his current contract with the Bundesliga club.

    Liverpool are among the clubs interested in signing the 22-year-old, and are of course in a similar position with Goretzka's international teammate Emre Can, who will be able to negotiate freely with foreign clubs in January as his Reds deal runs down.

    Schalke's sporting director Christian Heidel says the Gelsenkirchen outfit are ready to make Goretzka a big offer to keep him at the club but admits the ball is now in the player's court.

    We go to the pain threshold, Heidel said. We have done everything to show Leon that he is extremely important to Schalke.

    "For us, there were always two options: either his contract is extended or he remains here until 2018. It was never an issue for us. We believe that it is best for him to stay here. The ball is now with Leon.

    German newspaper Bild, meanwhile, says a decision over Goretzka's future is expected 'at the turn of the year' but suggested that even if he were to sign a new deal with Schalke, it would contain a clause allowing him to leave if a Champions League club came in.
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    that would make to much sense for us so there will be nothing in it
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    Linked with him and Rabiot today.

    If we signed Keita, Rabiot and Goretzka I think I'd be fine with Can toddling off to Turin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrawleyRed View Post
    Linked with him and Rabiot today.

    If we signed Keita, Rabiot and Goretzka I think I'd be fine with Can toddling off to Turin.
    Absolutely.

    That would be a hell of a midfield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrawleyRed View Post
    Linked with him and Rabiot today.

    If we signed Keita, Rabiot and Goretzka I think I'd be fine with Can toddling off to Turin.
    If we do that then something is wrong with Liverpool as we would be doing some really good business.
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    I've seen Goretzka a few times and he's always stood out. Let's just say if we did get him in the summer, with him and Keita, our cm would be a hell of a lot better next season. I think Can will be sold and there's a good chance Cou won't be with us next season. It will be interesting to see what our midfild 2 or 3, will look like next season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Can't defend View Post
    that would make to much sense for us so there will be nothing in it
    Jesus Christ, change the record for 5 minutes will you.
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    Get a proper dm and play Goretzka and Keita in front of him. That would be the business!
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Chris- View Post
    Jesus Christ, change the record for 5 minutes will you.
    He's a troll mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenpressing View Post
    He's a troll mate.
    i prefer his more positive alter ego can/could attack
    Eagle Face Moron
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    He is exactly the sort of midfielder we should be after.
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    Not seen much of Goretzka. What type of midfielder is he?

    With Can likely to leave in the summer, surely Jurgen will be looking to bring in another '6' to compete with Henderson?

    Would Goretzka be capable of playing in that role?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraclesArePossible View Post
    He is exactly the sort of midfielder we should be after.
    Indeed
    We need Keita him and another and use hendo and wij as back up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewdleyfan View Post
    Not seen much of Goretzka. What type of midfielder is he?

    With Can likely to leave in the summer, surely Jurgen will be looking to bring in another '6' to compete with Henderson?

    Would Goretzka be capable of playing in that role?
    He's more of a #8 mate. Him and Keita playing in front of a specialist dm would be boss!
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    At least we can confirm Klopp knows our current midfield is **** like the rest of us do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewdleyfan View Post
    Not seen much of Goretzka. What type of midfielder is he?

    With Can likely to leave in the summer, surely Jurgen will be looking to bring in another '6' to compete with Henderson?

    Would Goretzka be capable of playing in that role?
    Of all our mids I'd compare his role to what Wijnaldum does (except he doesn't go missing in every single away game).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewdleyfan View Post
    Not seen much of Goretzka. What type of midfielder is he?

    With Can likely to leave in the summer, surely Jurgen will be looking to bring in another '6' to compete with Henderson?

    Would Goretzka be capable of playing in that role?
    Yes, it looks like he'd be Can's replacement. He similar to Can but has more goals in his game. Him, Lallana, Coutinho and Keita all vying for the CM roles though, two wont get in the team with Klopp's 433 system. We just need a proper DM and we're sorted, unless we'll play Keita there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenpressing View Post
    He's more of a #8 mate. Him and Keita playing in front of a specialist dm would be boss!
    Quote Originally Posted by CrawleyRed View Post
    Of all our mids I'd compare his role to what Wijnaldum does (except he doesn't go missing in every single away game).
    Quote Originally Posted by BearWithMe View Post
    Yes, it looks like he'd be Can's replacement. He similar to Can but has more goals in his game. Him, Lallana, Coutinho and Keita all vying for the CM roles though, two wont get in the team with Klopp's 433 system. We just need a proper DM and we're sorted, unless we'll play Keita there.
    Cheers for the info guys.

    So could Keita and Goretzka work in a '2' do you think? With Bobby ahead of them, in behind a CF? Or will an out and out DM need to be behind them?

    I've always liked a 4-3-3, but I want us to sign a new CF next summer. On the flip side of that, I think Firmino is a quality player who would be great as a '10' or second striker. That would only happen if Jurgen changed formation though, which I can't see happening at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewdleyfan View Post
    Cheers for the info guys.

    So could Keita and Goretzka work in a '2' do you think? With Bobby ahead of them, in behind a CF? Or will an out and out DM need to be behind them?

    I've always liked a 4-3-3, but I want us to sign a new CF next summer. On the flip side of that, I think Firmino is a quality player who would be great as a '10' or second striker. That would only happen if Jurgen changed formation though, which I can't see happening at this point.
    100%, I was thinking this morning. My reluctance to change system has been down to our lack of quality in midfield. With Keita and Goretzka we'd easily be able to play 4-2-3-1.

    Assuming Coutinho is of, something like

    Keita-Goretzka
    Salah-Firmino-Mane
    Werner


    Would be a dream. A stupidly realistic dream; unfortunately this is Liverpool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmreSam View Post
    100%, I was thinking this morning. My reluctance to change system has been down to our lack of quality in midfield. With Keita and Goretzka we'd easily be able to play 4-2-3-1.

    Assuming Coutinho is of, something like

    Keita-Goretzka
    Salah-Firmino-Mane
    Werner


    Would be a dream. A stupidly realistic dream; unfortunately this is Liverpool.
    You haven't put our captain in that formation!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmreSam View Post
    100%, I was thinking this morning. My reluctance to change system has been down to our lack of quality in midfield. With Keita and Goretzka we'd easily be able to play 4-2-3-1.

    Assuming Coutinho is of, something like

    Keita-Goretzka
    Salah-Firmino-Mane
    Werner


    Would be a dream. A stupidly realistic dream; unfortunately this is Liverpool.
    Not for me. While I would love us to switch to 4-2-3-1, I don't believe Keita-Goretzka would make a good pairing. They're both very good players, but neither is naturally defensive-minded. It's like Modric and Kroos at Real - they're both fantastic players, but there's a reason Casemiero always plays. If we had them, we's still have to play a three-man midfield imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meiyour View Post
    Not for me. While I would love us to switch to 4-2-3-1, I don't believe Keita-Goretzka would make a good pairing. They're both very good players, but neither is naturally defensive-minded. It's like Modric and Kroos at Real - they're both fantastic players, but there's a reason Casemiero always plays. If we had them, we's still have to play a three-man midfield imo.
    Keita is excellent defensively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmreSam View Post
    100%, I was thinking this morning. My reluctance to change system has been down to our lack of quality in midfield. With Keita and Goretzka we'd easily be able to play 4-2-3-1.

    Assuming Coutinho is of, something like

    Keita-Goretzka
    Salah-Firmino-Mane
    Werner


    Would be a dream. A stupidly realistic dream; unfortunately this is Liverpool.
    That midfield/forward line up is as good as anything we've had before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BearWithMe View Post
    That midfield/forward line up is as good as anything we've had before.
    More or less in agreement with that, it'd be outstanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewdleyfan View Post
    Cheers for the info guys.

    So could Keita and Goretzka work in a '2' do you think? With Bobby ahead of them, in behind a CF? Or will an out and out DM need to be behind them?

    I've always liked a 4-3-3, but I want us to sign a new CF next summer. On the flip side of that, I think Firmino is a quality player who would be great as a '10' or second striker. That would only happen if Jurgen changed formation though, which I can't see happening at this point.
    Possibly. Goretzka would need to be a bit more disciplined than he currently is, but could certainly be capable of it in home games against non-top six sides.

    I agree wholeheartedly that Firmino needs to be a 10 behind a proper striker though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmreSam View Post
    100%, I was thinking this morning. My reluctance to change system has been down to our lack of quality in midfield. With Keita and Goretzka we'd easily be able to play 4-2-3-1.

    Assuming Coutinho is of, something like

    Keita-Goretzka
    Salah-Firmino-Mane
    Werner


    Would be a dream. A stupidly realistic dream; unfortunately this is Liverpool.
    I've been completely put off the idea of Werner ever since he asked to be taken off at Besiktas because the crowd was scaring him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraclesArePossible View Post
    Keita is excellent defensively.
    Yes, he is. But he's a box-to-box midfielder imo. His first instinct is to go forward and create. Goretzka's the same.

    Making either of them to sit for the entire game will be taking away from their core strengths. It'll be like playing a younger Gerrard in central midfield - he's good enough to play there, but it's not his best position and nullifies his primary strengths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meiyour View Post
    Yes, he is. But he's a box-to-box midfielder imo. His first instinct is to go forward and create.

    Making him sit for the entire game will be taking away from his strengths. It'll be like playing a younger Gerrard in central midfield - he's good enough to play there, but it's not his best position and nullifies his primary strengths.
    I see what you mean but I don't think you'd have to make him sit the entire game in a 4-2-3-1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrawleyRed View Post
    I've been completely put off the idea of Werner ever since he asked to be taken off at Besiktas because the crowd was scaring him.
    Think he had some breathing problems.
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    I don't watch anywhere near as much as football as I used to, but am I right in thinking that the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid and PSG use a '3' in midfield?

    From what I've seen, not many of the 'top' teams seem to use a '2' anymore. And when they do, it tends to be when they're set up with three at the back (Juventus, Chelsea, Spurs etc...).

    I could be horribly wrong and misinformed of course! I'm not saying 4-2-3-1 is a dead formation either, or that it's ineffective. I acknowledge that it's still a popular system, but perhaps not utilised as much as it was in the (recent) past?
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