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    “It is no secret that Philippe has wanted this move to happen since July, when Barcelona first made their interest known.

    “Philippe was insistent with me, the owners and even his teammates this was a move he was desperate to make happen.

    “Despite that, we managed to keep the player here beyond the summer window, hoping that we would be able to persuade him to stay and be part of what we are looking to do.

    “I can tell the Liverpool supporters that we, as a club, have done everything within our means to convince Philippe that remaining part of LFC was as attractive as moving to Spain, but he is 100 per cent certain his future – and that of his family – belongs at Barcelona. It is his dream and I am now convinced there is nothing left at our disposal to change his mind.

    “Philippe has made a fantastic contribution to this club over his five years of service and as disappointed as we are he doesn’t want to extend that, the relationship we have for him means with a heavy heart we wish him well.

    “The player remained dedicated and committed to helping us win matches, producing good performances and training hard each day at Melwood after the summer window had closed, despite failing to convince us to allow him to leave during that period and that level of professionalism reflects positively on him.

    “Of course, it is totally understandable that supporters will be disappointed; this is always the case when you have to say goodbye to someone special. But, as hard as it is sometimes to accept, it is part of life and part of football – individuals have their own dreams and their own goals and objectives in life.

    “Players will come and players will go, that is football, but as a club we are big enough and strong enough to continue with our aggressive progression on the pitch, even when we lose an important player. We have never been in a better position in recent times, as a club, to react in the right way. We will use our size and strength to absorb moments like this and still move forward.

    “I have been here long enough now to know in the history of Liverpool, key players have left before – but the club always goes on. You cannot transfer the heart and soul of Liverpool Football Club, although I am sure there are many clubs who would like to buy it.

    “I have so much belief in the talent we have here already and even more faith, together with our owners, that we will make continued investment into the playing squad, which will allow more growth and more improvement.

    “So as we bid farewell to Philippe, we continue on our path of progress and development as we work towards our common goal of bringing trophies back to Anfield.”

    Jurgen Klopp on Coutinho.
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    It's nice to know that we absolutely begged him to stay and he still forced his way out in January, of a world cup year to boot.

    Must have been an awful proposition, to live in the lap of luxury for another 5 months before moving to a warmer lap of luxury.

    Perhaps the line about he let his team mates know in no uncertain terms he wants out is telling, and the situation could have become toxic, but then why make him captain when it was obvious he felt he wanted no part of this teams future?

    It's a phenomenal whack of money, all things considered. It just doesn't feel like it, and just means whoever we call in the next few weeks will be ready to bum us for every penny.

    The killer is the feeling that it simply continues the cycle we've seen for so long,- forever adding a piece to the puzzle only to remove a huge chunk of it, it's forever three pieces short.
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    We will do fine without him.

    Looking ahead to the players Klopp will bring in.
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    Cout, it could have been great if you decided to stay with us. Regardless, thank you for the memories! You have been a great servant to this club and we appreciate that! I hope you have fond memories of the club that took you in young and believed in you enough to make you into the star you have become. All the best!
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Topper- View Post
    It's nice to know that we absolutely begged him to stay and he still forced his way out in January, of a world cup year to boot.
    Maybe we're just led to believe he forced his way out to cover up the recouping of what has been some big money expenditure this season - on VVD, Ox and Salah, with the agreed fee for Keita as well

    Quote Originally Posted by -Topper- View Post
    It's a phenomenal whack of money, all things considered. It just doesn't feel like it, and just means whoever we call in the next few weeks will be ready to bum us for every penny.
    Problem is now we've signed VVD for £75m a lot of clubs will see what we'll spend and asking prices will be bumped up, it's not that the players are worth more simply everyone indulges in the "well if player A cost £Bm then player C is worth £Dm......" and it's not like we'll be shopping in the bargain basement, although their is a fair bit of merit in buying players less in the limelight as the clubs we bought Ox, Salah, Mane, VVD, Lovren etc did

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    The killer is the feeling that it simply continues the cycle we've seen for so long,- forever adding a piece to the puzzle only to remove a huge chunk of it, it's forever three pieces short.
    Until we are in a position at or very much nearer the top, consistently in the top 3-4, winning trophies etc, we're not in a strong position that our best quality players who wish to win trophies will stay here. Obviously if Suarez had stayed in 13/14 and Coutinho stayed now then we might have been in a better position overall but you have to appreciate their perspective.

    Plus, as I've said a few times before, we see the Premier League as the best, very much Premier League centric in our views, but to some of the others playing in La Liga and for Real or Barca is a bigger draw so maybe a few Premier League fans and the media need to get over the hyping of it and realise this is England and we have one perspective, the ROW inevitably will be somewhat more split on that score. Helps the case of Real and Barca that they are winning machines in a warmer climate which suits half the world's players better if not more, and from an LFC perspective as some delight in pointing out, we're not in the 70s and 80s any more, and even back then who were our stars and where were they from? Wales, Scotland, Denmark, England, a chap from Zimbabwe, a few from Ireland, wasn't exactly brimming with South Americans though. The world has moved on a bit from those days, not all perspectives have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Topper- View Post
    It's nice to know that we absolutely begged him to stay and he still forced his way out in January, of a world cup year to boot.

    Must have been an awful proposition, to live in the lap of luxury for another 5 months before moving to a warmer lap of luxury.

    Perhaps the line about he let his team mates know in no uncertain terms he wants out is telling, and the situation could have become toxic, but then why make him captain when it was obvious he felt he wanted no part of this teams future?

    It's a phenomenal whack of money, all things considered. It just doesn't feel like it, and just means whoever we call in the next few weeks will be ready to bum us for every penny.

    The killer is the feeling that it simply continues the cycle we've seen for so long,- forever adding a piece to the puzzle only to remove a huge chunk of it, it's forever three pieces short.
    I reckon Levy would have driven a harder bargain if it was one of Spurs' key players tbh. It's a massive fee but can't help thinking it's not enough and they've mugged us off, especially when you take into account the Dembele fee. And you know Monaco will try and get almost all of it for Lemar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Topper- View Post
    It's nice to know that we absolutely begged him to stay and he still forced his way out in January, of a world cup year to boot.

    Must have been an awful proposition, to live in the lap of luxury for another 5 months before moving to a warmer lap of luxury.

    Perhaps the line about he let his team mates know in no uncertain terms he wants out is telling, and the situation could have become toxic, but then why make him captain when it was obvious he felt he wanted no part of this teams future?

    It's a phenomenal whack of money, all things considered. It just doesn't feel like it, and just means whoever we call in the next few weeks will be ready to bum us for every penny.

    The killer is the feeling that it simply continues the cycle we've seen for so long,- forever adding a piece to the puzzle only to remove a huge chunk of it, it's forever three pieces short.
    I think his wife didn't like the shops at Liverpool One
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacFoley'1975 View Post
    “It is no secret that Philippe has wanted this move to happen since July, when Barcelona first made their interest known.

    “Philippe was insistent with me, the owners and even his teammates this was a move he was desperate to make happen.

    “Despite that, we managed to keep the player here beyond the summer window, hoping that we would be able to persuade him to stay and be part of what we are looking to do.

    “I can tell the Liverpool supporters that we, as a club, have done everything within our means to convince Philippe that remaining part of LFC was as attractive as moving to Spain, but he is 100 per cent certain his future – and that of his family – belongs at Barcelona. It is his dream and I am now convinced there is nothing left at our disposal to change his mind.

    “Philippe has made a fantastic contribution to this club over his five years of service and as disappointed as we are he doesn’t want to extend that, the relationship we have for him means with a heavy heart we wish him well.

    “The player remained dedicated and committed to helping us win matches, producing good performances and training hard each day at Melwood after the summer window had closed, despite failing to convince us to allow him to leave during that period and that level of professionalism reflects positively on him.

    “Of course, it is totally understandable that supporters will be disappointed; this is always the case when you have to say goodbye to someone special. But, as hard as it is sometimes to accept, it is part of life and part of football – individuals have their own dreams and their own goals and objectives in life.

    “Players will come and players will go, that is football, but as a club we are big enough and strong enough to continue with our aggressive progression on the pitch, even when we lose an important player. We have never been in a better position in recent times, as a club, to react in the right way. We will use our size and strength to absorb moments like this and still move forward.

    “I have been here long enough now to know in the history of Liverpool, key players have left before – but the club always goes on. You cannot transfer the heart and soul of Liverpool Football Club, although I am sure there are many clubs who would like to buy it.

    “I have so much belief in the talent we have here already and even more faith, together with our owners, that we will make continued investment into the playing squad, which will allow more growth and more improvement.

    “So as we bid farewell to Philippe, we continue on our path of progress and development as we work towards our common goal of bringing trophies back to Anfield.”

    Jurgen Klopp on Coutinho.
    From what I remember he had extended it by 5 years just before Barcelona turned his head.
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    So we still playing - rename Kloppstars?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    I reckon Levy would have driven a harder bargain if it was one of Spurs' key players tbh. It's a massive fee but can't help thinking it's not enough and they've mugged us off, especially when you take into account the Dembele fee. And you know Monaco will try and get almost all of it for Lemar.
    but for the owners point of view its a complete success of what they were trying to do in building the club. now they can sale a major asset like phil for 142 million and reinvest in high quality resaleable players closer their prime now ready to challenge agan with klopp but without phil for that premier league crown

    phil for salah keita and van dijk was a good *********** deal all in all

    i mean salah alone has provided more for us this season than even coutinho has, so that alone was a mega *********** smart deal from them. trade a 142 m player in for a 37 million bargain with a load of change to buy other squad players. its a pretty smart argument even if it means losing our best player and yes the sad thing is he was just looking like capain phil mantle of gerrards crown.

    but i think its time bobby got the armband, not in a gerrard style captains role but almost in a suarez style one. he is the one thats battling on field every time to win , last game he kept coming deeper and deeper in the absence of phil , picking up the ball and making things happen. if klopp does sign a wide man like mahrez or fekir or whoever he might well utilise bobby a little deepr with salah as effectively main man no 9
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    I reckon Levy would have driven a harder bargain if it was one of Spurs' key players tbh. It's a massive fee but can't help thinking it's not enough and they've mugged us off, especially when you take into account the Dembele fee. And you know Monaco will try and get almost all of it for Lemar.
    Try? Oh they probably will.

    Whoever we call next will have us over a barrel.
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    Back to the topic last night then before the forums closed. Can the mods arrange a poll for Kloppstar's new name?
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Topper- View Post
    Try? Oh they probably will.

    Whoever we call next will have us over a barrel.
    Again? I'm still sore from the last one.
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    Good luck Phil, thank you for your efforts here at Liverpool, and thank you for the massive sum you brought us, wishing you a great future at Barca
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarknessIsCalling View Post
    Maybe we're just led to believe he forced his way out to cover up the recouping of what has been some big money expenditure this season - on VVD, Ox and Salah, with the agreed fee for Keita as well



    Problem is now we've signed VVD for £75m a lot of clubs will see what we'll spend and asking prices will be bumped up, it's not that the players are worth more simply everyone indulges in the "well if player A cost £Bm then player C is worth £Dm......" and it's not like we'll be shopping in the bargain basement, although their is a fair bit of merit in buying players less in the limelight as the clubs we bought Ox, Salah, Mane, VVD, Lovren etc did



    Until we are in a position at or very much nearer the top, consistently in the top 3-4, winning trophies etc, we're not in a strong position that our best quality players who wish to win trophies will stay here. Obviously if Suarez had stayed in 13/14 and Coutinho stayed now then we might have been in a better position overall but you have to appreciate their perspective.

    Plus, as I've said a few times before, we see the Premier League as the best, very much Premier League centric in our views, but to some of the others playing in La Liga and for Real or Barca is a bigger draw so maybe a few Premier League fans and the media need to get over the hyping of it and realise this is England and we have one perspective, the ROW inevitably will be somewhat more split on that score. Helps the case of Real and Barca that they are winning machines in a warmer climate which suits half the world's players better if not more, and from an LFC perspective as some delight in pointing out, we're not in the 70s and 80s any more, and even back then who were our stars and where were they from? Wales, Scotland, Denmark, England, a chap from Zimbabwe, a few from Ireland, wasn't exactly brimming with South Americans though. The world has moved on a bit from those days, not all perspectives have.
    It's the unfortunate reality, that we aren't the apex predators in the jungle. It's also why this idea of patient squad building over three to four years that some espouse is a long shot to bear fruit. He played for 5 years and won nothing. It's a dream move and you can't blame a Brazilian for wanting it. Timing is everything on this one. If they were interested in July last year then that was still two months to sort everything. Why release statements preaching defiance only to handicap yourself in January, where it's even harder to line up deals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    Again? I'm still sore from the last one.
    Sudocream?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacFoley'1975 View Post
    So we still playing - rename Kloppstars?
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    Back to the topic last night then before the forums closed. Can the mods arrange a poll for Kloppstar's new name?
    looking forward to this
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Topper- View Post
    It's the unfortunate reality, that we aren't the apex predators in the jungle. It's also why this idea of patient squad building over three to four years that some espouse is a long shot to bear fruit. He played for 5 years and won nothing. It's a dream move and you can't blame a Brazilian for wanting it. Timing is everything on this one. If they were interested in July last year then that was still two months to sort everything. Why release statements preaching defiance only to handicap yourself in January, where it's even harder to line up deals?
    yeah one would think they should have replacements lined up before even considering this deal knowing the immediate ramifications it could have on the squad moral if we dont sign an immediate replacement.

    partly its a brave decision by klopp to let him leave now but god knows what phil was threatening to get his move done also, i dont think he will have been a little angel in getting this deal done either
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    Back to the topic last night then before the forums closed. Can the mods arrange a poll for Kloppstar's new name?
    You can open one in the ‘off topic discussion’ section, it’d be brilliant
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Topper- View Post
    It's the unfortunate reality, that we aren't the apex predators in the jungle. It's also why this idea of patient squad building over three to four years that some espouse is a long shot to bear fruit. He played for 5 years and won nothing. It's a dream move and you can't blame a Brazilian for wanting it. Timing is everything on this one. If they were interested in July last year then that was still two months to sort everything. Why release statements preaching defiance only to handicap yourself in January, where it's even harder to line up deals?
    Yeah very *********** stupid but what can you do....we absolutely have to get a top class replacement in, but I'm slightly concerned it may not even happy which will be absolutely ridiculous!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterPoolStark View Post
    You can open one in the ‘off topic discussion’ section, it’d be brilliant
    Oh how do you do that? I will
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebeastyboy View Post
    Yeah very *********** stupid but what can you do....we absolutely have to get a top class replacement in, but I'm slightly concerned it may not even happy which will be absolutely ridiculous!
    Yeah mate, if the only plan involved trying to get him to change his mind, and nothing was in the pipeline to cover a departure then it would be, well, mind blowing.

    So we just need to see how it plays out in the coming days and weeks.
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    Not feeling the best today when I woke up, doubt many where to be honest, straight away thought, lets get on the forum and talk LFC!

    Had a mate text me already about it when I woke up! Ah it sucks man! Sucks!

    I hope it doesn't ********** up out season now and we slip down the table and slip out the competitions. Hope not I said! We just lost a world class playmaker ffs! Gutted!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredthecamel View Post
    yeah one would think they should have replacements lined up before even considering this deal knowing the immediate ramifications it could have on the squad moral if we dont sign an immediate replacement.

    partly its a brave decision by klopp to let him leave now but god knows what phil was threatening to get his move done also, i dont think he will have been a little angel in getting this deal done either
    With agents involved, you just never know. Is it beyond the realms of possibility that Joorabchian let it be known that players would think twice about joining us if we were seen to actually enforce contracts?
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    Oh how do you do that? I will
    Go here

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    Hit New Thread. Bug the mods to approve it and then give us the link once it’s ‘live’
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Topper- View Post
    With agents involved, you just never know. Is it beyond the realms of possibility that Joorabchian let it be known that players would think twice about joining us if we were seen to actually enforce contracts?
    Other clubs do it as well. In the end with such a scenario players would rarely move and agents would have no income
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Topper- View Post
    Yeah mate, if the only plan involved trying to get him to change his mind, and nothing was in the pipeline to cover a departure then it would be, well, mind blowing.

    So we just need to see how it plays out in the coming days and weeks.
    And also what it means is we are going to have to pay over the top prices for that kind of quality, like we did for Van Dijk
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacFoley'1975 View Post
    Not feeling the best today when I woke up, doubt many where to be honest, straight away thought, lets get on the forum and talk LFC!

    Had a mate text me already about it when I woke up! Ah it sucks man! Sucks!

    I hope it doesn't ********** up out season now and we slip down the table and slip out the competitions. Hope not I said! We just lost a world class playmaker ffs! Gutted!
    We still have a good side mate....it's not like when Suarez left & we were in tatters. It's critical though that the money is spent on genuine quality!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterPoolStark View Post
    Go here

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    Hit New Thread. Bug the mods to approve it and then give us the link once it’s ‘live’
    I know how to make a thread ffs! Look who made this one!

    A poll was what I was on about!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebeastyboy View Post
    And also what it means is we are going to have to pay over the top prices for that kind of quality, like we did for Van Dijk
    i m not sure what lemar has done to be valued at 90 million. he had one great season in a side playing electric football.. his highlights are maybe what most people including me have seen. i dont know enough about him to wnder why he is valued at 90 million but it must mean that some people think he has a very high potential.
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