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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    So 8 players sold, 9 with Phil. And who exactly is buying dross like Markovic, Flanagan, Bogdan, etc.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    So 8 players sold, 9 with Phil. And who exactly is buying dross like Markovic, Flanagan, Bogdan, etc.?
    It would be a well-done job to find someone, selling them will reduce the burden on the budget for their salaries!

    It's easy to sell Phil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beka666 View Post
    It would be a well-done job to find someone, selling them will reduce the burden on the budget for their salaries!

    It's easy to sell Phil.
    And how much would you be expecting to sell Bogdan, Flanagan and Markovic for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    And how much would you be expecting to sell Bogdan, Flanagan and Markovic for?
    10-15 mil. max

    Do you have any information as those I mentioned 8 earn a week !?
    I do not, but I think it's a pretty big amount!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beka666 View Post
    10-15 mil. max
    That'll get you Lemar's left little toe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rederman View Post
    Thats the thing, we wont be winning games by cricket scores like we did under coutinho hence why i think we need a solid keeper.
    When a games in the knife-edge you just know one of our keepers will do something daft and cost us points.
    Agreed. A Keeper is a big must.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    So 8 players sold, 9 with Phil. And who exactly is buying dross like Markovic, Flanagan, Bogdan, etc.?
    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    That'll get you Lemar's left little toe.

    If I remember correctly, we paid for these players:
    • Mignolet – 15mil,
    • Karius – 10mil?,
    • Bogdan – 5mil,
    • Flanagan - HG,
    • Markovic – 25mil ,
    • Sturridge – 25mil?,
    • Origi – 15mil
    • Ings – 7mil?.
    Total: 102 mil?

    If we would get for them:
    • Mignolet – 15mil,
    • Karius – 10mil?,
    • Bogdan – 500.000,00,
    • Flanagan – 5mil,
    • Markovic – 10mil ,
    • Sturridge – 15mil?,
    • Origi – 15mil
    • Ings – 10mil?.
    Total: 80,5 mil?
    It would be great!
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    [QUOTE=Beka666;13005257]If I remember correctly, we paid for these players:

    • Mignolet – 15mil, 9m
    • Karius – 10mil?, 4.7m
    • Bogdan – 5mil, free
    • Flanagan - HG, aca
    • Markovic – 25mil , 20m
    • Sturridge – 25mil?, [B]8m
    • Origi – 15mil 9m
    • Ings – 7mil?.
    Total: 102 mil? ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rederman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beka666 View Post
    If I remember correctly, we paid for these players:

    • Mignolet – 15mil, 9m
    • Karius – 10mil?, 4.7m
    • Bogdan – 5mil, free
    • Flanagan - HG, aca
    • Markovic – 25mil , 20m
    • Sturridge – 25mil?, [B]8m
    • Origi – 15mil 9m
    • Ings – 7mil?.
    Total: 102 mil? ?
    How much would that be?

    And how much would you hope to get for them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beka666 View Post
    If I remember correctly, we paid for these players:
    • Mignolet – 15mil,
    • Karius – 10mil?,
    • Bogdan – 5mil,
    • Flanagan - HG,
    • Markovic – 25mil ,
    • Sturridge – 25mil?,
    • Origi – 15mil
    • Ings – 7mil?.
    Total: 102 mil?

    If we would get for them:
    • Mignolet – 15mil,
    • Karius – 10mil?,
    • Bogdan – 500.000,00,
    • Flanagan – 5mil,
    • Markovic – 10mil ,
    • Sturridge – 15mil?,
    • Origi – 15mil
    • Ings – 10mil?.
    Total: 80,5 mil?
    It would be great!
    No one is going to pay 10m for Markovic and absolutely nothing for Bogdan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anil_Y2j View Post
    No one is going to pay 10m for Markovic and absolutely nothing for Bogdan.
    I doubt we'll see any regular first XI players go in this window now Phil has gone...depends on whether we get anyone else in.

    Bogdan, Flanagan and Lazar will be moved on if we can...but all 3 are on good money here so shifting them will not be easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beka666 View Post
    How much would that be?

    And how much would you hope to get for them?
    Migs and karius should keep their value which says alot about both of them. (15-20m for both)
    Markovic we will operate on a loss here , probably a 8/10 million hit, (-10M)
    Origi i think we can double, (18-20m)
    Sturridge is rumoured to want out and we want 25m so its likely we will make a 10m profit on Danny. (18-20m)

    Origi and Sturridge is where we are likely to make gains financially, the rest we are looking at recouping our money, and making a loss Markovic.
    Maybe 20-25 m profit in total for all players combined.
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    When will people stop doing mathematics we got money, ALL THAT COUTINHO MONEY IS OURS TO SPEND. We are rich, RICH !!!!!!! MUAHAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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    Quote Originally Posted by rederman View Post
    Migs and karius should keep their value which says alot about both of them. (15-20m for both)
    Markovic we will operate on a loss here , probably a 8/10 million hit, (-10M)
    Origi i think we can double, (18-20m)
    Sturridge is rumoured to want out and we want 25m so its likely we will make a 10m profit on Danny. (18-20m)

    Origi and Sturridge is where we are likely to make gains financially, the rest we are looking at recouping our money, and making a loss Markovic.
    Maybe 20-25 m profit in total for all players combined.

    So, how much is that for them, would that be enough for: (Adrien Rabiot + Draxler) or (Alisson + De Vrij + Goretzka)!!!!????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaneomax View Post
    When will people stop doing mathematics we got money, ALL THAT COUTINHO MONEY IS OURS TO SPEND. We are rich, RICH !!!!!!! MUAHAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    Van Dijk + Keita = Coutinho money
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beka666 View Post
    Van Dijk + Keita = Coutinho money
    No it doesnt. WE were prepared to buy both these players AND keep Coutinho remember?? WE ARE RICH I TELL U!!! RICH !!1 AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beka666 View Post
    So, how much is that for them, would that be enough for: (Adrien Rabiot + Draxler) or (Alisson + De Vrij + Goretzka)!!!!????
    50--60 m
    It might get us Allison , and cover the wages for Goretzka + De Vriji but i really dont know who Klopp has in mind..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaneomax View Post
    No it doesnt.
    Whay not?
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    Stronger, now that the little mercenary has left.

    I mean, seeing as we now have our defence strengthened with VVD.

    I hope we get either another central defender or a replacement for said mercenary, and a top quality goalkeeper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beka666 View Post
    Whay not?
    Because we were willing to buy both VVD AND Keita AND WE FOUGHT TO KEEP HOLD OF COUTINHO WITH EVERY LAST BREATH KLOPP HAD!!! WE ARE RICH MY BOI!!! RICH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaneomax View Post
    Because we were willing to buy both VVD AND Keita AND WE FOUGHT TO KEEP HOLD OF COUTINHO WITH EVERY LAST BREATH KLOPP HAD!!! WE ARE RICH MY BOI!!! RICH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beka666 View Post
    Van Dijk + Keita = Coutinho money
    We were bidding for them in the summer whilst refusing point blank to sell Couthino. Kills that one. We have money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Seamus- View Post
    I'm leaning towards weaker, only just though.

    No doubt VVD will have a positive affect at the back and possibly add more from our set pieces. But the loss of Coutinho in terms of what he brings to our attack is going to be missed. When in the middle he knits everything together and when he is out wide he scares the **** out of defenders. He is also capable of winning a game on his own no matter if he plays in the middle or out wide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by agb1037 View Post
    We were bidding for them in the summer whilst refusing point blank to sell Couthino. Kills that one. We have money.
    YES WE ARE MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH NOW WE TAKE OVER THE UNIVERSE LOLOLZ hhaha! In all seriousness that money is ours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedHed2 View Post
    Credit to aGothAndaJock in the posh seats for this thread, I noticed it last night when digging around to get a feel for views on Coutinho leaving.

    Anyway, it’s a simple concept, nothing to do with who we should buy, who we need, who would or wouldn’t join us, etc., etc. Obviously we’d be stronger had we kept him and brought in VVD, but considering what we gain from one, and lose from the other -

    Are we stronger or weaker as it stands right now having brought in VVD and sold Coutinho?
    With VVD we should make us harder to beat but losing coutinho we are not going to be scoring as many, so stronger at the back but weaker up top.
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    Better balanced. We were very thin at CB and a little top-heavy before the two moves.

    First XI slightly stronger, match day squad slightly weaker.
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    We upgraded our leadership capabilities that's for sure.

    I wouldn't advocate changing captain now, but VVD seems to have a commanding presence and his shouting seems purposeful as opposed to berating or just demanding the ball so he can give it back to you.

    I'd make the captain change in the summer, if Hendo and VVD follow the trajectories they're on now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shed View Post
    We upgraded our leadership capabilities that's for sure.

    I wouldn't advocate changing captain now, but VVD seems to have a commanding presence and his shouting seems purposeful as opposed to berating or just demanding the ball so he can give it back to you.

    I'd make the captain change in the summer, if Hendo and VVD follow the trajectories they're on now.
    Yeah the captain one is a big one, and VVD really does look our best leader, but yes, give it to him in the summer.
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    What's the verdict on Keita vs. VVD as captain. I'm assuming VVD given experience, but does Keita look like he has some leadership chops?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shed View Post
    What's the verdict on Keita vs. VVD as captain. I'm assuming VVD given experience, but does Keita look like he has some leadership chops?
    too hot headed
    VVD will be captain
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