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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoBaggio94 View Post
    When Jim White start telling everyone you can’t buy a good player unless you’re in the Champions League, or when Sky invented the ‘race for top 4’, an achievement almost as great as winning the actual league title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danm77 View Post
    Arsenal's problem is their manager and not investing properly in their squad. However, would they have been able to sign Ozil and Sanchez without being CL regulars? Unlikely.
    The signing players because of the Champions League doesnít wash with me.

    Our transfer windows following qualification have been poor. The first under Rodgers, Iíd rather we actually signed nobody at all. If you pay the fee and wages, youíll sign the player.

    Also, we havenít invested properly for years.
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    Win the CL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoBaggio94 View Post
    The signing players because of the Champions League doesn’t wash with me.

    Our transfer windows following qualification have been poor. The first under Rodgers, I’d rather we actually signed nobody at all. If you pay the fee and wages, you’ll sign the player.

    Also, we haven’t invested properly for years.
    Huh? We signed Salah, VVD and Keita in the past 7 months. Klopp and CL is box office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenpressing View Post
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    Itís nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoBaggio94 View Post
    It’s nonsense.
    I wouldn't say it's total nonsense, but you can still sign very good players without cl football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beige View Post
    Huh? We signed Salah, VVD and Keita in the past 7 months. Klopp and CL is box office.
    Sorry, I meant the summer.

    Yes Salah, Keita is for next season and Van Dijk was the winter.

    But I felt this summer was a missed opportunity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenpressing View Post
    I wouldn't say it's total nonsense, but you can still sign very good players without cl football.
    There are many things that go into a player's decision. Regular CL football is one, and probably an important one for top players. But it's not the only factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoBaggio94 View Post
    And how much stronger have we become after we have qualified?

    We need to win trophies. Otherwise, seriously, whatís the point?
    need is fine, but you also need to be in a position to do that. acting like a yo-yo club swapping and changing all the time is not the way to go and does not yield trophies. which to be quite honest is validated by us not winning one for so long because that is exactly what we have been doing.
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    Both , time to stop settling , we want success
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenpressing View Post
    I wouldn't say it's total nonsense, but you can still sign very good players without cl football.
    Of course you can.

    You just have to be prepared to spend the money and pay the wages. But thatís a different argument altogether.
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    Win the FA Cup - because, after we've won the European Cup for a 6th time this year we'll be back in the CL next season anyway!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoBaggio94 View Post
    Players are leaving Arsenal because of a lack of ambition. Not because of one season out of Europe, I don’t think so anyway.

    The players that are leaving are winners. Should we continue to not win anything, we’ll no doubt lose our best players too.
    We'll always lose our best players unless we are winning the PL or CL every few years...and even then some will want to leave.

    It's all about making steps forward...we haven't had consecutive top 4 finishes since 08/09...and we've failed to get any European football 3 times.

    Klopp helps in how we are perceived by potential targets, but a sustained few years in the CL is important too.

    I'd love a trophy...but at this moment, if I had to choose, I'd take to 4.

    Next year I'd take either...or preferably, both.
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    I hate it, I hate it, I hate it, but it would be 4th.

    The Champions League is the biggest club competition in football. The CL Final is the Superbowl of 'soccer'. We have to compete for it, we've won the ********** 5 times.

    That aside, I think the FA Cup Winners should get the 4th Champions League spot. It would make the cup more exciting and would add yet more beauty and romance to the cup. My local team Cardiff got to the FA Cup Final in 2008, that was epic, if CL football was on the line my ass would have fell out that day.

    If a team who finishes in the Top 3 win the Cup then 4th place should get CL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenpressing View Post
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    Has Lacazette actually been that good since moving?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHIL. View Post
    Win the CL.
    This ^^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Chris- View Post
    Has Lacazette actually been that good since moving?
    Don't know. He was perceived to be a top player before he signed, though.
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    I think that this is an annual Thread. For our stage of development it must be CL qualification. Only with successive years of such can be have built a team capable of winning trophies and so ultimately we get to a stage where we can rephrase the question; Win PL or CL?
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    We can do both - finish top 4 and win the FA Cup. So the question should be rephrased - what is more important, top 4 or FA Cup. Based on where we are now a sa club and where we've been for the last 9 years, imo top 4 is far more important.

    It's very true that CL football isn't the only thing top players consider when moving to a club, however it is more of a factor than whether they will win the FA/League Cup - as good as those trophies are.

    Anyway, as we can do both (top 4 and cups) we should be aiming for both. We do need to get back into the habit of winning again.
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    Under normal circumstances I'd want the Cup. But I think we're still at a crossroads where finishing in the top four would have a much bigger impact in the long-term development of the club.
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    Its certainly a tough one.

    I'd take the FA cup. For me its all about the silverware. And before any smart arse says would I be happy to finish 5th every season but win the FA cup, the answer would be no. We need a trophy very very soon. I don't like the thought of the mancs having more silverware than us, it hurts.
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    Why do people reply "both" to a thread asking you to choose?
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    Its tight for me TBH depends who we play in the final

    If it's us v ManUre or the Chavs at Wembley then I'd rather we lift the cup than finish 4th
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcdiggerman View Post
    Why do people reply "both" to a thread asking you to choose?
    Because humans are greedy
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    CL place... Top players will not care about the FA Cup
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indian-Red View Post
    Because humans are greedy
    We could well end up with both. We could end up with neither. I was just asking an hypothetical question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenpressing View Post
    We could well end up with both. We could end up with neither. I was just asking an hypothetical question.
    Relax..i get you..
    CL place for me. Eventual goal is to win the league. We need to build up a great squad for that. CL places helps in getting best players. FA does nothing in that aspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngriestRed View Post
    CL place... Top players will not care about the FA Cup
    Yeah, no way weíd have signed Markovic, Balotelli, Lambert, or Lovren without Champions League football.

    Top players care about wages, and ambition. Weíve got money, weíve got Klopp, we just need to show more ambition and top players will be playing here, thats regardless of being 4th or 5th this season.
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