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Thread: VAR in the epl.... it will NOT work

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasIsKing View Post
    It would be great to check offside calls. Easy to check and you can’t go wrong. But other decisions are going to be difficult. Pen / Red card decisions differ on opinions, would the Calvert Lewis penalty call still be a pen or not?
    This obsession to give penalties because there was ‘contact’ is quite ridiculous. Football is a contact game and every contact cannot be considered a foul.
    In every corner there is contact between players, so who gets the decision if, upon analysis, VAR calls 3 penaltys and 3 frees out? The rules need to be looked at and adjusted so that ‘contact’ must constitute a genuine foul on a player and not something that induces him into a dive, just like Calvert Lewis and Lallana. The penalty for simulation needs to be upgraded into a yellow card on every occasion and to include hanging legs which are left in the hope of hooking up with any old thing.
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    I'm STILL yet to see a credible argument against the implementation of VAR.

    'It's not right 100% of the time so let's just scrap it all together'?

    The technology is new, and even if it might not correct wrong decisions 100% of the time, it still corrects wrong decisions more than what would be the case without VAR. Therefore whether you like it or not it improves the officiating. Most people against VAR will change their mind this season when a referee gets a decision wrong for their team.

    Also, the VAST majority of problems with VAR have been down to human error, not the technology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYscouser View Post
    But what if the linesman does not raise his flag and the striker misses, then the other team scores on a counter attack? Do we call play back all the way to where there was an offside or allow the goal for advantage? OR what if the striker is taken out by keeper/defender and a penalty should be given, is it overruled and play brought back to the offside? If the foul is a red card offense would a red card be given and play brought back to the offside? In my opinion offside calls should not be part of VAR.
    I agree, in-game offside calls are too complex to be part of VAR. I think in 5 years time we'll have some sort of technology for real-time offside/onside calls anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYscouser View Post
    But what if the linesman does not raise his flag and the striker misses, then the other team scores on a counter attack? Do we call play back all the way to where there was an offside or allow the goal for advantage? OR what if the striker is taken out by keeper/defender and a penalty should be given, is it overruled and play brought back to the offside? If the foul is a red card offense would a red card be given and play brought back to the offside? In my opinion offside calls should not be part of VAR.
    Again, IF the ball goes into the net, meaning goal line tech indicates the ball crossed the plane, THEN officials use VAR to determine if the goal was scored OR initiated from an onside or offside position. Forget all the other stuff. The trigger is the ball going into the net. By far those are the most common incidents and should be the first addressed.
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    The uneccesary use of VAR would have totally ruined the game vs City today. It'll be a time wasting blight on a lot of good games in the future if overuse is allowed.

    Excellent article here...... https://www.theguardian.com/football...e_iOSApp_Other .... on the downside of VAR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardyards View Post
    The uneccesary use of VAR would have totally ruined the game vs City today. It'll be a time wasting blight on a lot of good games in the future if overuse is allowed.

    Excellent article here...... https://www.theguardian.com/football...e_iOSApp_Other .... on the downside of VAR.
    it might ruin 1 game out of say 40, but it'll correct the wrongdoings of the rest... which we've been craving for years.

    Wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game, as all goals were perfectly legal
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardyards View Post
    The uneccesary use of VAR would have totally ruined the game vs City today. It'll be a time wasting blight on a lot of good games in the future if overuse is allowed.

    Excellent article here...... https://www.theguardian.com/football...e_iOSApp_Other .... on the downside of VAR.
    Each of those "points" has been trotted out as an excuse to not do anything for the last 10 years. Had Aguero scored off that KDB cross in the first half where the flag didn't go up even though he was a yard offside it would have been a key example of why even an imperfect VAR is far better than doing nothing to improve officiating. This isn't rocket science and it needn't be flawless to improve the game, but it does need to be implemented slowly, specifically to assist on calls where the referee's discretion should have no bearing, like verifying a goal scored from an onside or offside position.
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