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    Quote Originally Posted by Anil_Y2j View Post
    Of course.
    They will love Migs then.

    Jokes aside, is Ward still injured?
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    Quote Originally Posted by livermaina View Post
    Sane was closing his angle (was pressed by Matip),so Karius only had to follow direction of the player who is going to shoot
    That is towards the post - hence effectively closing in the goal.
    He didn't do that and that is why Sane had a place to put the ball in
    You close the nearest post -that is it...
    It was a mistake and basic one too - I hope he learns .
    He'd done that effectively.

    He was positioned well to get to the front post but just made a bit of a poor attempt to do it. He was easily in reach of the front post but you don't cover that at the expense of the rest of the goal.

    None of this even matters...it's over. He could have done better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgRED View Post
    They will love Migs then.

    Jokes aside, is Ward still injured?
    Don't think he is.
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    the fact is mingolet isn't good enough but he is better than karius.

    but the forgotten man is danny ward is he that bad that both mingolet & karius are better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anil_Y2j View Post
    Don't think he is.
    Good then. Bye bye Migs. *wipe a little drop of tear off* Let Karius and Ward fight it out for the rest of the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ravo19 View Post
    the fact is mingolet isn't good enough but he is better than karius.

    but the forgotten man is danny ward is he that bad that both mingolet & karius are better.
    Thing is if migs get sold. Its easier for ward to get a game
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    He said that it is not healthy this GK rotation. Well we know what is not healthy. Having Goalkeepers who let ridiculous goals in every game. We'd be easily second and already in next year's Champions League, with some distance from the third, had we had a decent (I don't even mean a World Class), just a decent Goalkeeper.

    I have no idea why Danny Ward never got a chance.

    Buy a Top Goalkeeper.
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    John Achterberg is the problem

    We are always likely to concede a ton. Main reason being our poor goalkeeping coach.

    Pepe Reina was regarded as the best in the league together with Cech at the time. 2009 comes Achterberg, Pepe goes into decline. Makes mistakes. Gets sold. Returns to form.

    Mignolet, one of the most respected keepers in the league with relegation battling Sunderland. Regarded as an overwhelming flop after 200 games.

    Brad Jones, never makes the first team. Goes to Holland. Voted Keeper of the Season in the Ere-Divisie

    Karius voted 2nd best in Germany after Manuel Neuer before coming to Liverpoop

    Peter Gulasci was selected as the best goalkeeper of the autumn part of the 201718 Bundesliga season by the German sport magazine Kicker.

    Everyone deteriorates at Liverpool under Achterberg, a former Tranmere Keeper. Tranmere is a great club and all, but we need a someone like Olly Khan or a Zenga, or Lehmann
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    Quote Originally Posted by gershie View Post
    John Achterberg is the problem

    We are always likely to concede a ton. Main reason being our poor goalkeeping coach.

    Pepe Reina was regarded as the best in the league together with Cech at the time. 2009 comes Achterberg, Pepe goes into decline. Makes mistakes. Gets sold. Returns to form.

    Mignolet, one of the most respected keepers in the league with relegation battling Sunderland. Regarded as an overwhelming flop after 200 games.

    Brad Jones, never makes the first team. Goes to Holland. Voted Keeper of the Season in the Ere-Divisie

    Karius voted 2nd best in Germany after Manuel Neuer before coming to Liverpoop

    Peter Gulasci was selected as the best goalkeeper of the autumn part of the 2017–18 Bundesliga season by the German sport magazine Kicker.

    Everyone deteriorates at Liverpool under Achterberg, a former Tranmere Keeper. Tranmere is a great club and all, but we need a someone like Olly Khan or a Zenga, or Lehmann
    This.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Campos View Post
    He'd done that effectively.

    He was positioned well to get to the front post but just made a bit of a poor attempt to do it. He was easily in reach of the front post but you don't cover that at the expense of the rest of the goal.

    None of this even matters...it's over. He could have done better.
    I thought his positioning was fine. It was a rocket of a shot. Sane went past gomez twice with ease and the shot was about 15 yard away from goal so it was pretty close.

    It's one of those that on another day could have hit karius and gone for a corner. That said he still should be doing better as top keepers don't get beaten at the near post often. However we are yet to see if this is 'often' once he plays 15 games in a row.

    It was not a howler of a goal conceded like migs vs arsenal. That was horrific. This one was 'he could have done better'. It gives no credit to sane who rifled a brilliant shot at goal right in the tiny space between karius and the goal. If salah scored that we would be lauding it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    He said that it is not healthy this GK rotation. Well we know what is not healthy. Having Goalkeepers who let ridiculous goals in every game. We'd be easily second and already in next year's Champions League, with some distance from the third, had we had a decent (I don't even mean a World Class), just a decent Goalkeeper.

    I have no idea why Danny Ward never got a chance.

    Buy a Top Goalkeeper.
    Yeah allvthr goals we have conceded were down to the keeper. Even the 0 0 draws....migs should have gone up for a corner and scored for us
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    Hopefully Mignolet will be sold this or the next window.
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    Quote Originally Posted by livermaina View Post
    Sane was closing his angle (was pressed by Matip),so Karius only had to follow direction of the player who is going to shoot
    That is towards the post - hence effectively closing in the goal.
    He didn't do that and that is why Sane had a place to put the ball in
    You close the nearest post -that is it...
    It was a mistake and basic one too - I hope he learns .
    Not sure his positioning was a basic mistake, I also think its a mistake to say a keeper should never be beaten at his near post, it can happen, problem is the goalmouth is not just the near post, he has also especially as in the game Sunday have to have one thought on the player passing the ball across the box, had Sane done that it was a near certain goal. I wrote Sunday and it may explain what came up later about his hands [which according to the experts where not right] but he looked a little off balance and that also played its part, it was also one hell of a shot and he would need to be sat right, thing is keepers and even great keepers get beat every week and I would not **** off Karius for that goal, whether he is good enough long term is a different matter of course, I have my doubts but time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gershie View Post
    John Achterberg is the problem

    We are always likely to concede a ton. Main reason being our poor goalkeeping coach.

    Pepe Reina was regarded as the best in the league together with Cech at the time. 2009 comes Achterberg, Pepe goes into decline. Makes mistakes. Gets sold. Returns to form.

    Mignolet, one of the most respected keepers in the league with relegation battling Sunderland. Regarded as an overwhelming flop after 200 games.

    Brad Jones, never makes the first team. Goes to Holland. Voted Keeper of the Season in the Ere-Divisie

    Karius voted 2nd best in Germany after Manuel Neuer before coming to Liverpoop

    Peter Gulasci was selected as the best goalkeeper of the autumn part of the 2017–18 Bundesliga season by the German sport magazine Kicker.

    Everyone deteriorates at Liverpool under Achterberg, a former Tranmere Keeper. Tranmere is a great club and all, but we need a someone like Olly Khan or a Zenga, or Lehmann
    If Oblak calibre player joins us and regresses then the problem must be John Achterberg!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anil_Y2j View Post
    So it looks like its coming to an end for this season at least.Migs to Napoli??
    What would they want him for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frogster View Post
    If Oblak calibre player joins us and regresses then the problem must be John Achterberg!
    Needs to leave in the summer also, Klopp needs to find his own man for the position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shed View Post
    BTW have we seen Karius make a top drawer save? By that I mean one you would expect most goalkeepers not to make.
    That was the discussion after beating city about both keepers and they said no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    He said that it is not healthy this GK rotation. Well we know what is not healthy. Having Goalkeepers who let ridiculous goals in every game. We'd be easily second and already in next year's Champions League, with some distance from the third, had we had a decent (I don't even mean a World Class), just a decent Goalkeeper.

    I have no idea why Danny Ward never got a chance.

    Buy a Top Goalkeeper.
    Seems to keep picking up minor injuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grudge View Post
    Needs to leave in the summer also, Klopp needs to find his own man for the position.
    Agree, it can't be a mere coincidence that every keeper who has joined us with some pedigree behind them during John Achterberg's reign has regressed and then those exact same keepers have left Liverpool and subsequently improved a little or even immensely in the majority of cases.

    If our next soon to be world class GK signing goes down the hill whilst John Achterberg is still here then this very goalkeeping coach will need a thread of his own on here for major questioning!

    When Mignolet leaves, you expect he will eventually turn "World Class" past the age of 30 when he finally gets good coaching! Jokes!
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    we need to sign someone during this window

    karius is not good enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by ravo19 View Post
    the fact is mingolet isn't good enough but he is better than karius.

    but the forgotten man is danny ward is he that bad that both mingolet & karius are better.
    I'm in this camp too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by livermaina View Post
    It is crazy to think ,but we actually didn't have good GK since ....we were the champions so long ago
    This is true. Since we won the league last we've had world class players in every position apart from goalkeeper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naturalskill View Post
    we need to sign someone during this window

    karius is not good enough
    Will be difficult unless we pay top dollar and over the odds in this window.

    Many clubs with top first choice keepers are usually not keen to let their player go halfway through the season.

    I'm happy to let Karius/Ward see out the 2nd half of the season and get our number 1 GK in the summer. Every chance these guys could be on their way too if they prove they are not up to it after being given an extended run.

    Might make winning cups this season difficult of course with these guys in goal though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by naturalskill View Post
    we need to sign someone during this window

    karius is not good enough
    Anyone good enough to be a clear improvement for us isn't being sold in January.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouldiogs View Post
    What would they want him for?
    For laughs.
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    Hope Karius has **** like this in his locker

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Editor66/...388864/photo/1
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    Quote Originally Posted by ravo19 View Post
    the fact is mingolet isn't good enough but he is better than karius.

    but the forgotten man is danny ward is he that bad that both mingolet & karius are better.
    He has never been impressive, Peter Gulacsi was a much better keeper than him in their academy days and unfortunately we let the wrong keeper leave.
    Honestly Ward is no better than the other two..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bri_Bates View Post
    Anyone good enough to be a clear improvement for us isn't being sold in January.
    money talks as they say
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    Quote Originally Posted by naturalskill View Post
    we need to sign someone during this window

    karius is not good enough
    agree karius isn't good enough but looks like klopp wants to give him rest of season to prove himself,worryingly if an offer came in now for mingolet I think klopp will take it and go with karius for rest of season,taking a massive risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterPoolStark View Post
    Hope Karius has **** like this in his locker

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Editor66/...388864/photo/1
    how dare you,people don't want to see this sort of thing on here.
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