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    Quote Originally Posted by angel102999 View Post
    Then you show what you do actually believe in holocaust denial as much as you have refuted it till now, Either you believe it happened or you dont. There is nothing to question, no middle ground and no gray area. its a simple yes or no question



    tell that to someone who lost most of their family in Belsen or Dachau that there entire life history didnt happen.

    How very scummy of you to say that. Though I am not sure you understand the complexities of Holocaust Denial.



    Okay I ll just go over there and meet them shall I. Flights on you yeah?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverdinner1 View Post
    How very scummy of you to say that. Though I am not sure you understand the complexities of Holocaust Denial.



    Okay I ll just go over there and meet them shall I. Flights on you yeah?
    I grew up in germany, so yeah i do understand it VERY well.

    And you call me scum because i think you deny the holocaust even tho you have the inteligence to not actually say it, Because you know how offensive it is.

    And where do you want flights to? because victims of the nazi regime live all over the world, whether they are jews, gypsies, gays,mentally handicapped people or political prisoners, the holocaust wasnt exlusively jews although they do certainly make up the vast majority of victims, both alive and dead.
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    On a side note, my God.

    Just saw a video of the capture of Gaddafi. Apparently they sodomized him with a stick before they killed him.

    Horrendous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angel102999 View Post
    I grew up in germany, so yeah i do understand it VERY well.

    And you call me scum because i think you deny the holocaust even tho you have the inteligence to not actually say it, Because you know how offensive it is.

    And where do you want flights to? because victims of the nazi regime live all over the world, whether they are jews, gypsies, gays,mentally handicapped people or political prisoners, the holocaust wasnt exlusively jews although they do certainly make up the vast majority of victims, both alive and dead.

    yeah I think you are ******* disgusting.

    Not once in this entire thread have argued about the Holocaust other than about people's rights to deny it. Easy way out for you though isnt it, just to attack me.

    So yeah I think you're utter filth for that.
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    Im filth because i despise people who say the holocaust never happened?

    im filth?

    really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by angel102999 View Post
    Im filth because i despise people who say the holocaust never happened?

    im filth?

    really?
    You constantly seem twist anything that is said.


    You are filth because you cheaply asserted that I deny the Holocaust on no evidence whatsoever.

    Guess what, I am offended- maybe your comment should be illegal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverdinner1 View Post
    No it isnt.

    Questioning history is not the same as calling somebody a homophobic slur
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    Banned. Probably gone. Really can't have holocaust denies on an official forum.

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    If he has been banned for anything he posted in this thread, it's an absolute disgrace.

    What is there to twist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverdinner1 View Post

    Not once in this entire thread have I argued about the Holocaust other than about people's rights to deny it. Easy way out for you though isnt it, just to attack me.

    So yeah I think you're utter filth for that.
    this

    into this

    Im filth because i despise people who say the holocaust never happened?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverdinner1 View Post
    Guess what, I am offended- maybe your comment should be illegal?
    i direct you to what i said earlier

    There are some things which are above rules of free speech and expression, this is one of them, and i hope someday we realise in this country that it should be here as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverdinner1 View Post
    this

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    Im not twisting anything, im being very clear on it.

    You have repeatedly said in this thread you should be able to deny the holocaust. Im saying that is no different to saying you deny it as well.

    I wont lose any sleep over the fact you think im filth, believe me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angel102999 View Post
    i direct you to what i said earlier
    In your opinion...

    Libellous statements also fit this statement like yours...
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    Quote Originally Posted by angel102999 View Post
    Im not twisting anything, im being very clear on it.

    You have repeatedly said in this thread you should be able to deny the holocaust. Im saying that is no different to saying you deny it as well.

    I wont lose any sleep over the fact you think im filth, believe me.

    No I havent said that I should be able to deny the Holocaust.

    I say that anybody should be able to.

    So yes you are twisting this to be about me wanting to be able to freely deny it.

    Couldnt care less how you feel and whether you do or not tbh.
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    It is an offence to deny the holocaust in the UK
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    Quote Originally Posted by bondred View Post
    It is an offence to deny the holocaust in the UK
    No its not, is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bondred View Post
    It is an offence to deny the holocaust in the UK
    No, its not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dookar View Post
    No its not, is it?
    No probably not, but try and do it in some kind of public place and I am sure you will be nicked for inciting racial tensions
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    The holocaust didn't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumbrian View Post
    The holocaust didn't happen.
    I didnt mean on the net
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    Quote Originally Posted by bondred View Post
    No probably not, but try and do it in some kind of public place and I am sure you will be nicked for inciting racial tensions
    Probably, but it should depend on what you say really
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    Tony Farrell was a Senior Intelligence Analyst with West Yorkshire Police.
    He was asked to write and present a risk assessment report of the terror threat to the UK.
    After looking at the evidence for 9/11 and 7/7 he realised the official version of events did not hold true.

    He concluded that the greater threat was not from Islamic terrorism, but from the UK government.

    His risk assessment was going to state this but he was asked to change it but refused.
    After 12 years as an Analyst he was sacked.
    He has lost an appeal to be reinstated, but is seeking further legal redress.
    http://www.policespecials.com/forum/...ired-from-syp/
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    Quote Originally Posted by FergiesAgenda View Post
    Tony Farrell was a Senior Intelligence Analyst with West Yorkshire Police.
    He was asked to write and present a risk assessment report of the terror threat to the UK.
    After looking at the evidence for 9/11 and 7/7 he realised the official version of events did not hold true.

    He concluded that the greater threat was not from Islamic terrorism, but from the UK government.

    His risk assessment was going to state this but he was asked to change it but refused.
    After 12 years as an Analyst he was sacked.
    He has lost an appeal to be reinstated, but is seeking further legal redress.
    http://www.policespecials.com/forum/...ired-from-syp/
    Original source http://www.prisonplanet.com/police-i...ag-terror.html which quotes from an interview in July last year from Richplanet.TV. Arguably Prison Planet and Rich Planet are the polar opposites of the Daily Mail!

    "....he began researching information suggesting that the official story behind 9/11 was a total fabrication. Farrell cites the Alex Jones Show as being instrumental in his awakening to this knowledge." Alex Jones the conspiracy theorist that is - not the girl from the One Show.


    ".....his bosses were stunned when Farrell instead reported that the 2005 London bombings were staged by British intelligence and that the official story was a “monstrous lie”.

    I am not so sure he arrived at the correct conclusions for a "Senior Intelligence" analyst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flabster View Post
    Original source http://www.prisonplanet.com/police-i...ag-terror.html which quotes from an interview in July last year from Richplanet.TV. Arguably Prison Planet and Rich Planet are the polar opposites of the Daily Mail!

    "....he began researching information suggesting that the official story behind 9/11 was a total fabrication. Farrell cites the Alex Jones Show as being instrumental in his awakening to this knowledge." Alex Jones the conspiracy theorist that is - not the girl from the One Show.


    ".....his bosses were stunned when Farrell instead reported that the 2005 London bombings were staged by British intelligence and that the official story was a “monstrous lie”.

    I am not so sure he arrived at the correct conclusions for a "Senior Intelligence" analyst.
    Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somethang View Post
    Why?
    I have gone over this before but it's a long thread.

    Simply because the conspiracy theories concentrate on the small details that fail to look at the big picture.

    For instance if the US secret service planted bombs in the Twin Towers to demolish them then why did they also need a couple of jet airliners to fly into them beforehand? It would be a lot simpler to leave out the hijacking of the airliners and just set the bombs off and blame Al Qaeda. Or were the hijacked jets just in case bombs failed or vice versa?? Doesn't really makes sense.

    And why would British secret service bomb our own people? What did the secret service/government gain. They lost the next election. You can go on and on about these small things and there will always be some gaps to fill. But ultimately what did such an operation seek to gain weighed up against the chance of someone involved leaking the story. So far not one person has owned up and said they were involved in a government sponsored conspiracy against their own people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somethang View Post
    Why?
    Because when you quote alex jones as a surce the word Intelligence goes out the window im guessing.
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    I think Alex Jones is a hero.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flabster View Post

    For instance if the US secret service planted bombs in the Twin Towers to demolish them then why did they also need a couple of jet airliners to fly into them beforehand?

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    Symbolic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flabster View Post
    I have gone over this before but it's a long thread.

    Simply because the conspiracy theories concentrate on the small details that fail to look at the big picture.

    For instance if the US secret service planted bombs in the Twin Towers to demolish them then why did they also need a couple of jet airliners to fly into them beforehand? It would be a lot simpler to leave out the hijacking of the airliners and just set the bombs off and blame Al Qaeda. Or were the hijacked jets just in case bombs failed or vice versa?? Doesn't really makes sense.
    The impact of having planes hitting their targets whilst being filmed is far far greater than just blowing up the buildings.

    And why would British secret service bomb our own people? What did the secret service/government gain. They lost the next election. So they could introduce the terrorism act and further erode out freedom and also to try and justify the illegal wars they got themselves into You can go on and on about these small things and there will always be some gaps to fill. But ultimately what did such an operation seek to gain weighed up against the chance of someone involved leaking the story. So far not one person has owned up and said they were involved in a government sponsored conspiracy against their own people.
    Its funny how al queda was so intelligent to carry out the 9/11 attack but so lousy at everything else in the aftermath!..clincher for me is that they are simply not smart enough to have carried it out. They are simpletons who are limited to packing individuals or vehicles with bombs. To fly and steer a plane 20 metres off the ground into the pentagon...are u having a laugh?
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    The US 9/11, inside job and ill never think any differently. of course they did it, they always do drastic things to start a war somewhere for personal gain. The US invade or try to run countries and then have the balls to say, why do they hate us?
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    I don't mind alex jones , you need people like him poking their nose into things but he is really out there , funny stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jemmyboy View Post
    Its funny how al queda was so intelligent to carry out the 9/11 attack but so lousy at everything else in the aftermath!..clincher for me is that they are simple not smart enough to have carried it out. They are simpletons who are limited to packing individuals or vehicles with bombs. To fly and steer a plane 20 metres off the ground into the pentagon...are u having a laugh?
    It's funny how the United States Security Services can't keep hundreds of thousands of war documents from Iraq and Afghanistan, secret Bliderberg files, and even communications between NSA security services from Wikileaks but is given the credibility by conspiracy theorists for organising and then hushing up everyone involved.

    And if the impact of having planes hitting their target whilst being filmed was important why was the Pentagon strike never shown? The first plane strike was only captured by amateurs and a news crew on the ground filming the NY fire dept.

    Believe me in the early days after 9/11 I was seduced by the dark side and find many things peculiar about 9/11 to this day. But I have come to the conclusion that it was NOT an inside job. If that was the case they would have found a way of implicating Saddam and Iraq. They tried but couldn't. Whilst I think that Bush and his "advisors" seized an opportunity after the events of 9/11 I think the cause of it all was America's Air Force and Airport security getting lax after the Cold War finished that allowed such an attack.

    Al Qaeda did not become lousy after 9/11 either unless you think the Bali Bombings, Madrid train bombings and 7/7 plus a whole host of other attacks were insignificant.


    I doubt that will change people's minds as the truth you seek for is often the one you choose to believe.
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