i dont think saying akon is hip hop is a particularly big generalisation.Originally Posted by hirsche
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i dont think saying akon is hip hop is a particularly big generalisation.
Epiphany by T-Pain is a good album. More R&B ish
It is a problem! a guy earlier in thread said Ne-Yo was a Hip Hop artist. There is good Hip Hop out there you just have to find it.
Ne-Yo is a crime against any genre to be fair
again not Hip Hop I would not even call T-Pain RnB!
Ne-Yo has a lot more talent then lots of people putting music out at the moment
..and yet is still a crime against music
I guess it shows what state music is in
I most certainly concur!
indeed
Hip Hop is only my 3rd favourite genre ( behind classic rock and blues) But hip hop is like rock music..... the new stuff is awful. If you like hip hop then you should check out Nas-(illmatic days), the Roots, Notorious B.I.G, GangStarr, a tribe called quest, De La Soul, Run DMC, Jay Z-(reasonable Doubt days) Wu tang - (36 chambers) Jurrasic 5....... Any one who says they like hip hop, then proceeds to talk about 50 cent, Akon, the Game, Kanye West or soulja boy don't really know what there talking about. By the way Kanye is an extremely talented producer and should have stook to what he was good at.
he was a dencent rapper before he went all techno now he is just about as bad as the rest, Some of the Games new stuff is decent as well (Letter To The King) but most modern stuff is crap with the exception of a few (Nas,Lupe,Guru)
Roots Manuva
La the Darkman
Souls of Mischief
The Lords The Lords The Lords of the Underground!
Killarmy
Gravediggaz
Prince Among Thieves by Prince Paul is one of my favourtie albums thou the skits get abit annoying, the same goes with Deltron 3030.
Keith Thornton aka Kool Keith, Dr Octagon, Keith Turbo, Dr Doom, Black Elvis, The Fourth Horseman, and so on!
Last edited by christhered; 26-3-09 at 15:35.
hirsche T-Pain is hip hop.
Ne-Yo is awesome!
People who **** him off don't know that he writes all his stuff as well. Great singer good dancer, makes some tunes. What more could you want.
I am sorry he is not. He does not even have any talent.
So he's still an American Hip-Hop artist. Like Lil' Wayne. Just because they vocode their voices its still hip hop. And T-Pain has made some classics like Bartender
also writes stuff for others...
classics? hardly. T-pain does not even rap he tries to sing.
'Classics'
Some excellent recommendations above. Alas the omission of Public Enemy casts a heavy pall over an otherwise authoritative post
Years ago I used to be very dismissive of hip-hop. The first artists I really got into were GangStarr and Masta Ace. They still stand up well to this day. After that I rediscovered a lot of the earlier classic hip hop that I'd hitherto scorned. Public Enemy, KRS One etc.
The nineties were a brilliant decade for hip hop. Wu Tang, particularly the earlier solo projects, was a particular favourite as were the early Roots Albums. Tribe Called Quest, Pharcyde and De La Soul provided a mellow alternative to the guns and gangsta paens which Death row were pushing out. Jeru the Damager, Kool Keith, El P, Gravediggaz etc.
I think Hip Hop lost its way a bit post 2000. Mainstream success made for a lot of formulaic records and too many artists cashed in. Nas for instance, having produced one of the best albums ever in illmatic, seemed happy to churn out below par records. Common are an exception, also Aesop Rock, Outkast and there's some interesting off shoots in the like of Buck 65, Saul Williams etc that keep my faith in the genre alive. Most of the mainstream stuff leaves me cold. Kayne West is a talented rapper and producer but the overselling got ridiculous.
Well obviously Bartender was an R&B song but many of his others are hip hop tracks.
Hieroglyphics
Good shout for Jeru the Damaja- Wrath of the Math and Sun Rises in the East two more classics from Hip Hops Golden years 92-95, ( thou love east coast late eighties too PE KRS..) and Bizzare Ride to the Pharcyde- Ya mamma's so fat, how fat is she! Amazing!
A good album to download is Death Row Presents - A Hip Hop History
2Pac, Snoop, Dre, Nate Dogg, J Flex, Daz Dillinger
They are the greatest!!!!
Nowadays Lupe, Chamillionaire, Immortal Tech, Jedi Mind Tricks are the only ones i listen too. Theres not really anyone else after that lot which is a shame
I liked the late 80s Grandmaster Flash,Run DMC and so onSome excellent recommendations above. Alas the omission of Public Enemy casts a heavy pall over an otherwise authoritative post
Years ago I used to be very dismissive of hip-hop. The first artists I really got into were GangStarr and Masta Ace. They still stand up well to this day. After that I rediscovered a lot of the earlier classic hip hop that I'd hitherto scorned. Public Enemy, KRS One etc.
The nineties were a brilliant decade for hip hop. Wu Tang, particularly the earlier solo projects, was a particular favourite as were the early Roots Albums. Tribe Called Quest, Pharcyde and De La Soul provided a mellow alternative to the guns and gangsta paens which Death row were pushing out. Jeru the Damager, Kool Keith, El P, Gravediggaz etc.
I think Hip Hop lost its way a bit post 2000. Mainstream success made for a lot of formulaic records and too many artists cashed in. Nas for instance, having produced one of the best albums ever in illmatic, seemed happy to churn out below par records. Common are an exception, also Aesop Rock, Outkast and there's some interesting off shoots in the like of Buck 65, Saul Williams etc that keep my faith in the genre alive. Most of the mainstream stuff leaves me cold. Kayne West is a talented rapper and producer but the overselling got ridiculous.
50 cent isnt hip hop?!
He was..... His last 2 albums have certainly not been though. More pop/hip pop
cant say ive listened to them, i think he's terrible. was just surprised someone was claming he isnt a rapper.He was..... His last 2 albums have certainly not been though. More pop/hip pop
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