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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxB View Post
    Mern gives his opinion as Doyle said yet he's told to **** off.
    Can't remember telling Mern to **** off...
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    Honestly I cant even be bothered quoting it or even looking for it but you said something along the lines of support Kenny and the team or **** off.

    Well he quite obviously supports LFC, this was never in doubt. He doesnt support Kenny and he has a right to when you look how dreadful we have being playing this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L-E-S-S-T-H-A-N View Post
    Good post. Kenny should do the honourable thing- step down, and recommend to Henry, Rafa.

    #BringRafaBack
    Quote Originally Posted by --LFC-Doyle-- View Post
    Kenny was here for the club when we needed him now needs us, So stop with your Kenny bashing and support the team through this bad spell or **** off.

    #GiveKennyAChance
    Read the comments before you comment, You don't have to support Kenny but bashing him is not on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by --LFC-Doyle-- View Post
    You don't tell the truth you give your opinion just like i'm giving mine about you, Don't beat yourself up about it. Im sure your opinion will change if they bring back the rep system as I used to remember you sucking up to people who had high rep, that's also why I think of your posts as pathetic.
    Sucking up to people with high rep? Are you serious lmao, I think if you go through my posts you'll find many arguments involving me because unlike you I'm not some sad little whopper who's up the managers arse and scared to give his own opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoinOnMern View Post
    Sucking up to people with high rep? Are you serious lmao, I think if you go through my posts you'll find many arguments involving me because unlike you I'm not some sad little whopper who's up the managers arse and scared to give his own opinion.
    Hit a nerve there didn't I LOL, Another pathetic post from you just because I back the manager means i'm up his arse don't make me laugh... I'm giving my own opinion so I can't be that scared... Just shows how sad you really are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by --LFC-Doyle-- View Post
    Hit a nerve there didn't I LOL, Another pathetic post from you just because I back the manager means i'm up his arse don't make me laugh... I'm giving my own opinion so I can't be that scared... Just shows how sad you really are.
    So when I give my opinion its pathetic but your opinion is amazing? Climb out your own arse you whopper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoinOnMern View Post
    So when I give my opinion its pathetic but your opinion is amazing? Climb out your own arse you whopper.
    Can't my head is up the managers... Apparently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by --LFC-Doyle-- View Post
    Can't it's up the managers...
    It? Nice to know you refer to yourself as it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoinOnMern View Post
    It? Nice to know you refer to yourself as it.
    As what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoinOnMern View Post
    Anyone who doubts Rafa's ability is an absolute whopper.

    1st season he won us the Champions League.
    2nd season he won us the FA Cup, and secured us a Champions League place.
    3rd season he had us finish 3rd and got us to the Champions League final again.
    4th season he had us finish 4th, and signed what would become the best striker in the world at one point.
    5th season he had us finish 2nd, our best season in a very long time. We played outstanding football that season as well, we were awesome to watch.
    His last season was admittedly awful. He took us from 2nd to 7th. He lost his best player from the season before and we just weren't the same team as the previous season.

    Rafa should never of lost his job. 1 Bad season out of 6 isn't bad, at all.

    1 Champions League
    1 FA Cup
    1 Super Cup
    1 Charity Shield
    Runner up Carling Cup
    Runner up Champions League
    Runner up World Championships

    I'm confident if Rafa had the money Kenny's had, over them 6 seasons, our team would have been:

    Reina
    Alves Skrtel Agger Riise
    Gerrard Masch Alonso Silva
    Torres Villa
    1st season: Champions League
    2nd Season: FA Cup
    3rd Season: Nothing
    4th Season: Nothing
    5th season: Nothing
    6th Season: nothing

    Won his trophies with a majority of Houlliers players & a top quality Gerrard. Take Gerrard's influence away & Rafa wins nothing. A Quarter of a billion pounds spent how much more money did he need?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnyred77 View Post
    1st season: Champions League
    2nd Season: FA Cup
    3rd Season: Nothing
    4th Season: Nothing
    5th season: Nothing
    6th Season: nothing

    Won his trophies with a majority of Houlliers players & a top quality Gerrard. Take Gerrard's influence away & Rafa wins nothing. A Quarter of a billion pounds spent how much more money did he need?
    You do realise that Liverpool made the final of the Champions League and lost to a great AC Milan team in Athens in 2007. Do you know how far away we are from those incredible heights?

    How many years will it be till Real Madrid yet again play at Anfield in the Champions League?

    Your favourite Liverpool FC players are not going to play the modern phenomenon that is Lionel Messi while wearing the Liverpool shirt.


    Do you know that Rafa Benitez is probably one of the only Premier League managers who could boast that if you added all the money from the transfer fees and value of players he bought for Liverpool FC he would come out with a profit. Think about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnyred77 View Post
    1st season: Champions League
    2nd Season: FA Cup
    3rd Season: Nothing
    4th Season: Nothing
    5th season: Nothing
    6th Season: nothing

    Won his trophies with a majority of Houlliers players & a top quality Gerrard. Take Gerrard's influence away & Rafa wins nothing. A Quarter of a billion pounds spent how much more money did he need?
    He brought us a European Cup with a team that featured Igor Biscan, Djimi Traore and Neil Mellor...
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    Never wanted him to leave..
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    I once thought about all the players that Rafa Benitez bought for Liverpool. Sometime last year I added up what they cost in transfer fees. I seem to remember I came out with £228m.

    I then added up the amount of money recovered by sales of these same very players. I came out at £191m.


    Meaning a deficit of £37m but with Reina, Agger, Skrtel, Lucas, Kuyt, Maxi, Glen Johnson still at the club.

    You would not get that much for Maxi now, even Kuyt would be reasonably cheap these days if sold but you would certainly make more then £37m from the others.


    Edit: I forgot Jonjo Shelvey who would count as a Benitez signing although he was cheap and is still not worth anything significant but is regarded as very promising.
    Last edited by Coffeelover; 26-3-12 at 11:26. Reason: I forgot Jonjo Shelvey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnyred77 View Post
    1st season: Champions League
    2nd Season: FA Cup
    3rd Season: Nothing
    4th Season: Nothing
    5th season: Nothing
    6th Season: nothing

    Won his trophies with a majority of Houlliers players & a top quality Gerrard. Take Gerrard's influence away & Rafa wins nothing. A Quarter of a billion pounds spent how much more money did he need?
    Clueless - totally uninformed about what is going on; not having even a clue from which to infer what is occurring
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeelover View Post
    I once thought about all the players that Rafa Benitez bought for Liverpool. Sometime last year I added up what they cost in transfer fees. I seem to remember I came out with £228m.

    I then added up the amount of money recovered by sales of these same very players. I came out at £191m.


    Meaning a deficit of £37m but with Reina, Agger, Skrtel, Lucas, Kuyt, Maxi, Glen Johnson still at the club.

    You would not get that much for Maxi now, even Kuyt would be reasonably cheap these days if sold but you would certainly make more then £37m from the others.
    His transfer record, was actually very good. If you haven't been brainwashed by Sky Sports, or The S#N.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fowlers2atgrayskull View Post
    His transfer record, was actually very good. If you haven't been brainwashed by Sky Sports, or The S#N.
    I must admit to not realising his signings would have made a decent profit till last year but Benitez rarely made a loss on signings and many of his medium signings went up exponentially in value especially the ones still at the club.

    I must admit to now not wanting to think about Dalglish and Commolli being able to make a profit from their own signings. Certainly there would not be a loss on Suarez and Enrique but the others would probably represent losses.

    I exclude Sebastian Coates as it is still too early to make any kind of judgement on a player with so few first team appearances.

    Of course a young man like Jordan Henderson may improve in years to come but at £16m with an extra £4m in add ons is still rather expensive at the current time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fowlers2atgrayskull View Post
    Clueless - totally uninformed about what is going on; not having even a clue from which to infer what is occurring
    What is going on where? It's in the past, it's history. He had his chance & he blew it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnyred77 View Post
    What is going on where? It's in the past, it's history. He had his chance & he blew it!
    I don't think you should be talking with words like "past" or "it's history".

    If you are saying that you should not live in the past and never bring back old managers, then maybe think about what Liverpool FC did January 2011.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnyred77 View Post
    What is going on where? It's in the past, it's history. He had his chance & he blew it!
    I know, I hated those European Cup Finals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fowlers2atgrayskull View Post
    I know, I hated those European Cup Finals.
    Who wants to see Real Madrid get beaten at Anfield?

    Much better to jump up and down and go crazy about defeating the might of Cardiff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeelover View Post
    Who wants to see Real Madrid get beaten at Anfield?

    Much better to jump up and down and go crazy about defeating the might of Cardiff.
    Or winning at Bolton at the Reebok!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeelover View Post
    Who wants to see Real Madrid get beaten at Anfield?

    Much better to jump up and down and go crazy about defeating the might of Cardiff.

    Hmm, maybe my last comment was too harsh.


    Liverpool FC won the Carling Cup by defeating six clubs.

    Of those six clubs two were very good, worthy opponents who on paper are better then Liverpool FC (Chelsea, Man City).

    Of the other four clubs only one was a Premier League club (Stoke)

    The other three were teams in lower divisions including the final opponents (Cardiff), Exeter and Brighton being the others.

    It is mainly with these results that Liverpool FC are claiming a season with progress.
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    Does anyone know if rafa still comes to Anfield or melwood to watch the youngsters? Does rafa have any contact with Ian Ayre? He still lives in Liverpool, he won't relocate, he has this BURNING desire still to manage LFC and make them a force in world football again!

    This summer after KK has won us the cup, I would love rafa to be our manager and KK moved upstairs again! Everyone wins that way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by L7S View Post
    Does anyone know if rafa still comes to Anfield or melwood to watch the youngsters? Does rafa have any contact with Ian Ayre? He still lives in Liverpool, he won't relocate, he has this BURNING desire still to manage LFC and make them a force in world football again!

    This summer after KK has won us the cup, I would love rafa to be our manager and KK moved upstairs again! Everyone wins that way!
    Rafa is imo absolutely an alternative when Kenny decides to call it a day (whenever that may be).
    But what startles me is that most people on here seem to have forgotten the "forum fan's" cry for blood towards the end of his tenure with us. Everyone should be careful with what they wish for.
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    I like Rafa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeelover View Post
    You do realise that Liverpool made the final of the Champions League and lost to a great AC Milan team in Athens in 2007. Do you know how far away we are from those incredible heights?

    How many years will it be till Real Madrid yet again play at Anfield in the Champions League?

    Your favourite Liverpool FC players are not going to play the modern phenomenon that is Lionel Messi while wearing the Liverpool shirt.


    Do you know that Rafa Benitez is probably one of the only Premier League managers who could boast that if you added all the money from the transfer fees and value of players he bought for Liverpool FC he would come out with a profit. Think about that.
    Im a massive Rafa fan and Id love to see him back here someday, that Milan side wasnt all that imo.

    The one we beat in 2005 was better for me .
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Danny- View Post
    Im a massive Rafa fan and Id love to see him back here someday, that Milan side wasnt all that imo.

    The one we beat in 2005 was better for me .
    The best team lost in both 2005 and 2007 finals.
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    The problem with Rafa seems to be that he wants back in at a big club but wants the type of owners that are incredibly rare to find owning and running those types of clubs.

    If he finds a billionaire arab somewhere he will dominate european football for years.
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